Others have been discussing the plans for Andrem Choudary and his band of militant Islamists to march through Wootton Bassett. There has, as expected, been a range of opinion about how to deal with this eventuality. Indeed, on the BBC news, I watched as local politicians talked openly about banning it. The prime mentalist even got in on the act.
‘The Prime Minister’s view would be obviously that anything that is considered to be offensive to, or of concern to, families of troops wounded or killed in Afghanistan would be completely inappropriate.’
So, welcome to Britain, the land of free speech. Free speech means allowing speech that you find offensive – and, let me restate it for those who are a little slow on the uptake; there is no right not to be offended. I also wish I had a pound for every time some fuckwit used the term “inappropriate”. This is modern code for “needs to be banned”.
Sure, I share NickM’s opinion of the nauseating Choudary, a man who wants to exercise his freedom of speech but would, given the opportunity, deny it to the rest of us.
I think I tried to be polite but only managed to use the word “cunt”. I may have prefaced that with the word “utter”.
However, vile, obnoxious cunt though he is, Andrem Choudary must be allowed to voice his opinions. Out in the open, we can see him for the vile, obnoxious cunt that he is – sunshine being the best bleach. Let the world see and revile his views, let him remind us what waits for those who would find themselves living in his desired Caliphate. And, let us remind ourselves that freedom of speech means just that – freedom to speak openly, no matter how vile those opinions, no matter how upsetting, offensive or “inappropriate”.
Here, I am in absolute accord with Obnoxio:
It’s very fucking easy to defend free speech when it’s in line with your own thinking, but it takes a set to defend it when people are saying things you don’t like.
So, those libertarians who claim to value freedom of speech, but would deny it to Andrem Choudary, take note. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech for everyone, whether it is Islamofascists or Nick Griffin, no matter what iniquitous dogma they spout. If Andrem Choudary’s free speech is stifled today because he is an extremist, yours and mine will be stifled tomorrow, because we, too, are extremists in the view of the centre-left mainstream social democrats.
Of course, there is the question of how to deal with it. The best, most effective way would be to completely ignore it, for the media to fail to turn up and cover it, for the streets to be empty and the shops closed and shuttered, to deny Choudary his audience and the oxygen of publicity – for it is publicity that he seeks. Unfortunately, that ain’t gonna happen. The media cannot resist the opportunity to report, so Choudary will get his fifteen minutes no matter what – indeed, he is already basking in notoriety.
Given the dignity with which the people of Wootton Bassett have shown during the return of the fallen, perhaps a similar dignified response should be shown to Choudary. Line the streets and as the marchers approach, silently turn their backs on them. Show Choudary and his little band of nutjobs some healthy disrespect. It’s nothing more than they deserve, after all. And that’s the rub, we can use our freedom of speech to express disapproval, to remind Choudary that we will not submit to Islam, that we are better than he is. The high moral ground is there for us to seize. Will we? Or, as is more likely, will we squander it?
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Update: I do like this solution mentioned by Clairwill.
let all who wish to show this truly grotesque man up as the nasty, ridiculous bigot he is – FLY THE UNDERPANTS!…….we all know that angry andy and the bombastic beards of barminess would be applauding the Glorious Pants Of Terror right now if it had all gone as planned on flight 253, so let’s throw it right back in their faces. take a broomhandle or some other stick-type object and fly a pair of y-fronts off them as a flag. stick them in the window of your house or the window of your car, like people did in the last world cup.
Andrem Choudary is currently basking in the notoriety that his proposed march will bring. There is nothing he would like more than being taken sufficiently seriously that the march is banned. He can then play the victim card for all it is worth.
But… laughing at him, holding him up to ridicule – waving underpants at his march, now that sends all the right messages. There’s nothing these messiah types like less than ridicule and ridicule is what Islam4UK deserves, in bucket-loads. Yes, I like that, give the faithful the respect they demand and the respect they so richly deserve.
Anjem Choudray should be sent to afganistan , along with every islamic bastard in this country.Read the koran, it is EVIL.Just like the arseholes who believe in it.
Despite my contempt for Cuntary and his ilk (and he is rather more absurd than scary), I was still a little concerned to hear that 7 Muslim men are on trial (according to yesterday’s PM) for the use of ‘language that people found threatening or offensive’.
Since when was saying offensive things a crime in Britain? Who crept up behind us and stole our freedom of speech? Personally, I find everything Gordon Brown says highly offensive but I wouldn’t want… er, sorry never thought that one through. Whatever, such men, contemptible little shits though they may be, should not be a matter for the courts.
New Labour and their army of right-on multi-culti dhimmis.
I totally agree.
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All true but this is also missing the point. I’d have a lot less problema if counter demonstrators could hold up signs saying “Mohammed was a pederast!”… but of course we’d be arrested by the plod for inciting a riot. They can offend us but if we offend them, it’s a “hate crime”. It’s all well and good to say “no one has the right not be offended” but that does not reflect the reality: THEY do indeed have the legal right not to be offended.
So when someone who clearly agrees with you nevertheless calls for these fucktards to have bricks hurled at them, that’s the inevitable consequence of the government preventing our side from expressing itself freely. Also there is that little issue that in wartime (and we are at war), the enemy has no rights to conduct psyops in our country.
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Let Cuntary and the Paedo’s have their little march and then let the soldiers with fixed bayonets lining the high street have some fun.
I’m certainly not against free speech, but I think there should be some control as to the siting. In other words, give this man a hall in the middle of Dewsbury and let him have his freedom to spout his bile. To allow him to disrupt the lives of decent people is denying these people their liberty.
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Well location is clearly what this is all about. All the more reason not to bite. I can’t say that I agree with the point that the march will deny others their liberty, though.
i defended Choudray’s right to free speech previously on someone else’s blog, and was villified and mistakenly identified as a UAF activist. much as i dislike the cunt, his right to free speech is – just – more important than kicking him down the street.
i am more sickened by the fact that he gets more money in benefits than i earn than by what he says.
f**k islam and all their brainwashed followers…
i hope the people and troops of wooton bassett give it to em big time..british people are sick of these scum coming here to escape their shit lives and then have the nerve to try to turn our country into exactly into the same shit they were running from..dumb f**ks…
i have total respect for the people of wooten basset
and all our troops…..
Who’s Anjem Choudary? Never heard of him. 😉
I think most people are able to see Anjem Choudary for the Islamic extremist that he is. There’s no need to give him another opportunity to incite religious hatred. He’s had enough chances to do that already.
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Go to the butchers buy pigs heads. Hide them in houses and shops on the route and as they pass lob them in the road.
Ask some farmers to bring some pigs to town and lead them onto the marching supporters. Fill your water pistols with pig fat or piss from the pigpens and squirt it at them. If members of the public are allowed to throw eggs at politicians, I do not think one would get arrested for doing so.
I still think that the best way to deal with these angry radicals is to invite the would be marchers to a supper at Wootton Basset in a spirit of reconciliation. A good old fashioned pig roast seems most appropriate. With a full real ale bar of course.
I have always believed – certainly since the ludicrous ban on Sinn Fein – on letting people hoist themselves on their own petard.
Except it gets complicated does it not? Choudary claims his right to spit his bile on the basis of freedom of expression which is a right he would deny Danish cartoonists for example.
So whaddya do?
You keep on exercising our historic freedoms and ridiculing complete ass-hatters like Andy Choudary. I mean he wanders the streets wearing a fucking dressing gown with a beard you could lose a stoat in. He is a deeply pathetic twat.
Ridicule is the best medicine. I mean the last great Islamist attack on the west was some daft bastard from Nigeria setting his pants on fire over Detroit. He was minted. He could have had a really nice life and all. The Americans are gonna throw the book at him and it’ll be called, “You will never have umbrella drinks or make love to a woman on the beach ever again”.
Martyrs? Maximillion Kolbe was a martyr. This mob are wankers. Pathetic, sad, fuckwits. And they ought to be treated as such.
My sentiments exactly.