So, Welby gets it.
Christianity faces “elimination” in the Middle East, the region where it began, the Archbishop of Canterbury will warn in his Christmas Day sermon.
The Most Reverend Justin Welby will say so-called Islamic State is “igniting a trail of fear, violence, hatred and determined oppression”.
He will also brand IS as “a Herod of today” – a reference to the Biblical king at the time of Jesus’s birth.
Islam is a cancer that will destroy all in its path. ISIS, Da’esh, whatever, are merely following the literal path of their vile prophet. He was evil, they are merely picking up where he left off. The whole underpinning ideology is total suppression and domination of anything that is not with them. There is no negotiation with such a creed.
The average person gets it. Welby, it seems, is getting it. Yet still our political leaders fail to acknowledge what is before their very eyes.
In our close ally, Saudi Arabia, it is illegal to be a Christian.
Quite. Vile barbarians.
“in our close ally, Saudi Arabia, it is illegal to be a Christian.”
Silly statements like that diminish the truths about the nastiness of Islam.
If you are so sure it’s silly, Teesmaid, pop over to Riyadh and start reading from the bible in public.
Just having a bible will get you in hot water with the religious police.
I did not say that openly **practicing** Christianity (or indeed any religion that isn’t Islam) in Saudi is a good idea. But suggesting that 1.5 million people in Saudi “are illegal” is clearly not true. Hence silly. If you try to put about an obvious untruth about Islam then when you tell a truth about it there is a very real risk it will be dismissed. Crying wolf is not a good idea.
So homosexuality was never illegal, the fact that you could go to jail for practicing it openly didn’t make it illegal because you could still engage in gay sex in the privacy of your own home.
Eh? What’s your point? As I understand it, homosexuality was at one time illegal wherever you practiced it? That you could get away with it in private did not make it legal. Unlike being a Christian in Saudi which is not illegal.
For the avoidance of doubt, I do not seek to defend Islam or Saudi Arabia. I am happy to tell anyone who will listen about the realities based on my own experience, and I am happy to listen to other people’s views. But there is no need to make stuff up and it is counter productive to do so.
There is no legal protection for practicing Christianity in private in Saudi Arabia, leaving the door open to prosecute any groups or individuals the authorities don’t like. No doubt even rulers as utterly vile as those of Saudi Arabia realise wholesale slaughter of Christians might not play well with their allies. You cannot bring a bible into Saudi Arabia to practice in private and if you are a Muslim who becomes a Christian you’ll be beheaded for apostasy. Your insistence on standing up for one of the most evil, most brutal and most discriminatory regimes on the planet is most bizarre, are you perhaps a troll?
I don’t think you can accuse Teesmaid of defending Islam or the Saudis. You two have a difference of opinion about just how far a Christian will be tolerated in Saudi.
Not very much, frankly. A foreigner in a compound who keeps it very discreet, will doubtless be okay, but as you say, bringing a bible into the country is forbidden.
Why anyone would want to go to that shit-hole is beyond me.
I still fail to see why anyone would join a cult based on hatred and destruction, believing that the only way they can have sex is by raping female captives, young boys, or complacent goats and following the teachings of a raping, murdering, camel thief.
They join it because they are inadequate non-achievers in normal life, and it is the only way they can boost their egos. Like a traffic warden on steroids, but very much more so.
Mostly they’re born to it, and taught not to question anything they are told. I agree it is incomprehensible why anyone would convert to it unless they are very lazy of thought.
Welby actually understands what’s going on in the real world!?!?!?!
Now that is a Christmas miracle…