It is one of the defining principles of a free society – the right to free association and the right to refuse to work for someone for whatever reason they choose. You do not have a human right to insist that someone bake a cake with a logo that they do not wish to endorse. They, however, should have the absolute right to refuse to do business with you if they so choose, just as you have the right to take your business elsewhere. This is a nasty, spiteful and reprehensible action and if there is any justice in the world, you will lose. You are the bigot here, not them.
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The supreme court judgement was beautifully lucid and clear in the way it made the distinction at the heart of this case.
It is also clear that Ashers has been treated appallingly by all the lower courts.
I don’t know LR- if they do win their appeal it’s one season – anti- gay/ anti-trans floats over pride. Christians and Hindus going on pilgrimages to the Hajj, open season
If they win their case, I look forward to a Muslim shop being prosecuted for refusing to make/sell something, maybe made from pork, or non-halal meat.
“Goose & Gander”, popcorn will be needed!
A publican can refuse to sell alcohol to any customer, perhaps because they are already intoxicated enough or just because they’re being bloody obnoxious. Or maybe he doesn’t like the look of them. Being Black, white, orange, gay, straight, short, tall, skinny or fat has no bearing on the issue.
You should never be forced to sell something to anybody if you don’t want to.
Quite. It’s a basic liberty in a free society.
Signing up to the ECHR is a political prerequisite for EU membership, but it remains separate from our membership of the EU. Once we have achieved freedom from one, we should serve notice on the ECHR as well, since the last recourse for judicial appeals should remain with the UK Supreme Court.
The whole point about restoring UK sovereignty is to stop well meaning foreign types (especially those brought up under corrupting influence of Corpus Juris Civilis)
Even Treason May was in favour (albeit because it impeded her more totalitarian instincts), but the simple truth is that the ultimate arbiters of British Law must be British judges.
Too right John – and I fancy a few of the Ex Soviet countries will follow us out – putting an end to ‘soft Left’ judicial activism which expands State power without such trifles as ‘winning elections’ – will Be a real boon for freedom
Kinda lost my thread in the middle there. My point is that we need to stop well meaning foreign types trying to twist Common Law interpretations through a Civil Law mindset and just ending up with nonsensical garbage*.
Best way to do this is to ensure that the highest court of appeal remains within the borders of the UK and subject to the jurisdiction of British judges.
* – There is a slight twist here with Scottish Law obviously, but that was perfectly manageable in the era prior to us joining the Common Market (never mind the EU)