Not surprised at all, their knowledge of the law these days is scant.
I think they’re mostly just there as the bullt boys and have been for a long time, probably since the 90s, though more overt now.
Curiously enough these anti lock down protesters have a political goal. As such they were not breaking the law. The police were heavy handed and armed (clubs by any other name). If they keep this up protesters will turn up armed too.
When danger raised its ugly head
Plod bravely turned his tail and fled
Oh brave, brave, brave plod!
Do I support such behaviour? Yes I do. There are times when its fitting, and it would do for every plod to remember that they live among us.
When (if?) this lockdown fiasco ends, and the students (and others) are out on the town again, I wouldn’t want to be a police officer trying to maintain order on a Friday or Saturday night when it gets a bit fruity – might find some scores are going to be settled
I am sure it will get worse before, or rather, IF it gets better. I just can’t see the required mass disobedience and protest happening when such a high portion of the population is being suitably frightened by palpably risible propaganda.
It’s an old habit in the North East, and some other areas as far as I’m aware, where the residents come out and start ‘tin-panning’, banging pots and pans together, to warn other residents that unsavoury characters are out and about. Perhaps this is something which should be re-started?
Also, under current legislation, the Police officers are required to provide written evidence of a stop or search of a person or premises, giving the reason. “Idle curiosity of a council employed numpty’ doesn’t apply under this legislation. Shirtly, forced entry can only be gained with the issue of a warrant, and good luck with that, or, if a Police officer suspects that an offender is in those premises. Either way, some sort of record should be provided, giving the reasons for that suspicion. The officers should be disciplined, the numpties sacked and this young man should be given a formal apology by the Chief Constable or the Council leader. However, good luck with that, also.
The lad was in a difficult situation, because standing firm meant that he would be in trouble with the university, which, forgetting that he is paying their wages automatically side with the numpties.
I can see that sooner or later, people will organise against the “Lockdown Marshalls” and they will be ambushed on their patrol beat and be given “the hamster*” as they say in the North East. make it so that they cannot patrol without a substantial police presence and it will soon become not worth the candle.
* In other words, beaten so severely that their eyes close to slits and their face is puffed up so they resemble a hamster with its cheek pouches filled.
I wonder if he’ll be able to call this a student project and get some credit towards his degree? Depends, I suppose, on whether the law faculty (as distinct from the university administration) sees this as a problem or an opportunity.
I find this kind of thing to be deeply disturbing. The fact that complaints to the relevant authorities are ignored is also very worrying. What recourse do ordinary people have when being illegally harassed in this way, if the people whose job it is to protect them are not interested?
I know that it’s not directly relevant but the same lack of due diligence by the advertising standards people occurs when the complaint is too inconvenient. From a comment at Paul Homewood’s place:
“I pointed out to claim the electricity is 100% renewable is a deliberate lie and the first idiot I talked to acted all hurt and spoke to me as if they were an advocate for the company making the false claim so I asked to speak to the boss who refused to give me his name and who also did not see anything wrong with the claim saying essentially that it is only an aspirational statement!”
Saying that power is 100% renewable means that they would like it to be. So it’s not a lie.
Not surprised at all, their knowledge of the law these days is scant.
I think they’re mostly just there as the bullt boys and have been for a long time, probably since the 90s, though more overt now.
Curiously enough these anti lock down protesters have a political goal. As such they were not breaking the law. The police were heavy handed and armed (clubs by any other name). If they keep this up protesters will turn up armed too.
When danger raised its ugly head
Plod bravely turned his tail and fled
Oh brave, brave, brave plod!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbqiIs2wOxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGUGGgoEloM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIkXRiV19wQ
Do I support such behaviour? Yes I do. There are times when its fitting, and it would do for every plod to remember that they live among us.
When (if?) this lockdown fiasco ends, and the students (and others) are out on the town again, I wouldn’t want to be a police officer trying to maintain order on a Friday or Saturday night when it gets a bit fruity – might find some scores are going to be settled
I am sure it will get worse before, or rather, IF it gets better. I just can’t see the required mass disobedience and protest happening when such a high portion of the population is being suitably frightened by palpably risible propaganda.
It’s an old habit in the North East, and some other areas as far as I’m aware, where the residents come out and start ‘tin-panning’, banging pots and pans together, to warn other residents that unsavoury characters are out and about. Perhaps this is something which should be re-started?
Also, under current legislation, the Police officers are required to provide written evidence of a stop or search of a person or premises, giving the reason. “Idle curiosity of a council employed numpty’ doesn’t apply under this legislation. Shirtly, forced entry can only be gained with the issue of a warrant, and good luck with that, or, if a Police officer suspects that an offender is in those premises. Either way, some sort of record should be provided, giving the reasons for that suspicion. The officers should be disciplined, the numpties sacked and this young man should be given a formal apology by the Chief Constable or the Council leader. However, good luck with that, also.
The lad was in a difficult situation, because standing firm meant that he would be in trouble with the university, which, forgetting that he is paying their wages automatically side with the numpties.
I can see that sooner or later, people will organise against the “Lockdown Marshalls” and they will be ambushed on their patrol beat and be given “the hamster*” as they say in the North East. make it so that they cannot patrol without a substantial police presence and it will soon become not worth the candle.
* In other words, beaten so severely that their eyes close to slits and their face is puffed up so they resemble a hamster with its cheek pouches filled.
I wonder if he’ll be able to call this a student project and get some credit towards his degree? Depends, I suppose, on whether the law faculty (as distinct from the university administration) sees this as a problem or an opportunity.
I find this kind of thing to be deeply disturbing. The fact that complaints to the relevant authorities are ignored is also very worrying. What recourse do ordinary people have when being illegally harassed in this way, if the people whose job it is to protect them are not interested?
I know that it’s not directly relevant but the same lack of due diligence by the advertising standards people occurs when the complaint is too inconvenient. From a comment at Paul Homewood’s place:
“I pointed out to claim the electricity is 100% renewable is a deliberate lie and the first idiot I talked to acted all hurt and spoke to me as if they were an advocate for the company making the false claim so I asked to speak to the boss who refused to give me his name and who also did not see anything wrong with the claim saying essentially that it is only an aspirational statement!”
Saying that power is 100% renewable means that they would like it to be. So it’s not a lie.