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  1. Exactly it is not our war just stay out. We’ve sanctioned Russia and are suffering economically.

  2. It’s not a hard concept to understand that unless we stand alongside countries like Ukraine, then aggressors like Russia will just conquer these smaller countries until they are up against your border, having absorbed many smaller countries.

    And where do you draw the line? Poland? Denmark? Sweden?

    I can hardly believe I’ve read this here.

    • So which wars do we engage in? Do we take on China as well when they inevitably move on Taiwan? The Cameron government was rightly voted down when it tried to get involved in another middle eastern war a decade ago. This is no different.

      Yes, I take your point about where the line is drawn, but getting involved in foreign wars will exacerbate an already inflamed situation. So, no, it isn’t our war and we should not be involved beyond any humanitarian aid as might be necessary.

      Poland might be at a small risk, being ex Soviet Bloc, but Denmark and Sweden would be a move too far for Russia and they know it. They don’t want world war III any more than we do.

    • “It’s not a hard concept to understand that unless we stand alongside countries like Ukraine, then aggressors like Russia will just conquer these smaller countries until they are up against your border, having absorbed many smaller countries.”

      Bollocks.

    • Utter nonsense

      We are not in a situation to defend anyone let alone engage in a proxy war against a country with a larger population and a nuclear Arsenal.

      Until such time as woke ideas are excised from the body politic, the common sense notion that there are two genders is established as immutable fact, and left wing ideas more generally are circumscribed we should be very circumspect about foreign engagements. Given the EU attitude to the U.K. post Brexit to be honest I’d be comfortable with Russia occupying Calais (not that that seems very likely given the situation on the ground)

  3. @John

    As far as Russia is concerned, the US/NATO is the aggressor (please don’t go off on one and assume I am a “Putin stooge”. I didn’t say I agree with Putin but that – right or wrong – is how many in Russia see it)

    You can also engage with potential enemies and establish buffer zones. Britain and France did this in the far east, each agreeing to leave Siam alone, this being better for all concerned than having a direct border between British and French empires.

    But adults were in charge then, unlike the current shower in the west (and likely Russia as well). This whole situation was totally foreseeable and totally avoidable.

    LR please note that Corbyn is a 24 clock

  4. So that’s it then? The The Ukrainian war is dismissed as yet another “quarrel in a far-away country between people of whom we know nothing”.

    If Russia unilaterally invading its Eastern European neighbours is not a cause for concern requiring UK intervention, where do you draw the line? Russia invading Poland? Russian tanks at the Channel? Watford Gap? Piccadilly? The Reform Club?

    Salami Tactics

    • We already have a line in the sand. If Russia invades a NATO country, then we are at war. So that’s Poland covered.

      As I said above – which wars should we involve ourselves in?

  5. Corbyn is a closet communist, Russia can do no wrong in his eyes. He still believes it’s a socialist utopia and if he had his way we would be the same over here. What frightens me is the number of useful idiots who voted for him.

  6. Why is Russia even our enemy? It should be a friendly country by now, but the nato gravy train would have come to a halt and we cannot have that.

    We’ve become 10% poorer just in the last few months because this gigantic idiocy has been let happen by our cretinous rulers when it could have been avoided. The interesting thing is that all the useful idiots of the “Russia will invade everybody” variety are actually helping and willing those rulers to impoverish them. For no reason.

  7. Total aside.
    I signed the Official Secrets Act and if I was to present a foreign power with examples of our latest weapons……well you know the rest.
    But our esteemed leaders are handing all this stuff to a bunch of crooks, terrorists and the potential foe. And thus to Russia, China and, no doubt, North Korea.
    Mind you, they are doing us a favour by showing how useless or ineffective these very expensive job creation schemes are. And this putting a damper on the hotheads.

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