Apparently, Britain is resisting moves to harmonise the prosecution of motoring offences across the EU. Mrs L got caught speeding just outside Lodève the other week. Actually, if there had been harmonization, she would have been able to kick the notice into touch as it took them nearly three and a half weeks to notify her, rather more than the fourteen days laid down in the UK. It came as a nasty shock as she hadn’t realised that she was speeding. Now here, we come to the crux of speed traps, they are nothing to do with safety and everything to do with raising funds. I know exactly where they caught her and the 50kmh limit is not clearly sign posted. Indeed, it is not clear where it ends and the 90kmh starts – you have to assume that it is the signpost for the end of Soumont. There is no sign until you get past the roundabout to the A75 indicating any speed limit at all. I assume then, that it is 50kmh, but it isn’t clear. Mrs L was travelling at 59kmh, we are told. The second point is that had they really wanted to reduce speed and therefore increase safety (ha!), they would have been visible, but no, they hide in a small area at the side of the road around a bend, where the retaining wall for the motorway conceals them from the road, so they can see you, but you don’t see them. It doesn’t help that Mrs L’s Clio has the kmh reading in red on a black background, making it difficult to see…
Anyways, as she has a French registered vehicle, there’s no getting away with it. Indeed, the whole thing is so biased that attempting to dispute it merely makes the fine rise exponentially, thereby discouraging it. The French attitude is pay it and forget it. Then there is another difference. In the UK, if you are not the driver, you are legally obliged to state who was. In France, you do not. So, had someone else been driving, she need only to have provided evidence that she wasn’t and let them whistle.
So, with one offence, we have picked up two significant differences, one favourable under UK legislation and one favourable under French legislation. Which one will apply to, say a UK driver caught in France? Or, the other way around?
Under the proposals, which will be put before EU transport ministers on Thursday, motorists caught committing an array of motoring offences from speeding to using a handheld mobile phone on the continent, would be fined at home.
The same would apply to foreign motorists caught on camera speeding in Britain. Some forces, including Kent and the Metropolitan Police, have had considerable difficulty in pursuing fines from cars with overseas number plates.
I would suggest that overall, this is a small price for the police to pay. Do we really want foreign police forces chasing us across borders for minor offences? They can already snatch us in the event that we break a law in their countries without having set foot there or without it being an offence in the UK via the hideous European arrest warrant. Do we really want more of this? Really?
It’s one thing to be caught at the time and have to cough up a fine, as happened to me a couple of decades ago in Austria, but if they don’t catch you at the time, do we want them pursuing us for trivial offenses that, frankly, shouldn’t be on the statute book at all;
…and motor cyclists who ride without a safety helmet.
Can we leave yet? Greenland did and look what happened to them.
I wear black on the bike, have no lights and no helmet. Fine, that’s my funeral. The police go past me the whole time and don’t even look.
I tend to wear dark colours. I do wear a helmet as I don’t particularly like flying bugs in my face – rain and snow are pretty bad, too.
The ntere’s Europol, and their extra-terratorial “rights”
Scary stuff.
We’re off to E. Germany – “are we there yet dad?”
My kid brother was caught doing 56 in a 50kmh zone in northern Germany in a German-registered car. On-the-spot 15 euro fine.
My cousin was caught doing 45 in a 40mph zone in London. £60 fine + 3 points OR £90 fine + a three-hour classroom lecture on speeding.
Maybe standardising to German penalties wouldn’t be so bad. Or the police could just deal with bad driving.
Personally I wear a high vis jacket when riding, I’m not that experienced having only got my bike license in summer so figure every little helps at this point. Not that that stopped a woman rolling into the back of me when I was stationary at a set of traffic lights and denting my lovely new Bonneville! However this is not, and will hopefully never be, a legal requirement. However if you object to wearing a helmet you could always claim to be a Sikh as they have a special exception.
My wife’s car is left in the UK taxed. m.ot’d, and insured. Any of our family or friends can use it. We live most of the time in Bulgaria as that is our main residence. We no longer have property in UK and use a friends address for the vehicles registration. Any tickets the car gets regarding speeding are virtually unenforceable.
@chris strange – I dunno, I think driving into wally-bib wearing Bonneville riders could be made a legal requirement.
The Sikh defence was tried (it failed) by one Jake Mangelwurzel a few years back. “Sikh and ye shall be fined” he quipped.
Mind you, as he claimed to be married to his dog (who he also claimed was his son) it’s little wonder the beaks chose not to find in his favour.
Voyager – I feel the same about Goldwing riders (both 2 and 4 door) after being knocked off my old Enfield by one many years back. The first thing he knew about being involved in a prang was when he was in mid air and the connection from his helmet to his stereo snapped. “What happened to the music and why am I flying?”