Lord Carey regales us with nonsense about Christians being persecuted. Frankly, when we see Christians being fed to lions for the entertainment of the masses, I might take such rhetoric seriously. As it is, his cult is not being persecuted at all.
The former archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Carey, has accused David Cameron of making Christians feel marginalised.
Too bad. The vast majority no longer attend church. Indeed, apart from baptisms, marriages and funerals, most of us don’t bother to go inside of one from one year to the next. I might, when on holiday take a peek from an architectural perspective, but overall, I find them a bit creepy. If Cameron has managed to make them feel marginalised, then he is a more accomplished man than I gave him credit for – having finally achieved something…
He said it was a “bit rich” for the prime minister to tell religious leaders to oppose secularisation.
I agree. He shouldn’t have said it. It is not his place to be promoting faith, that is for the faiths themselves. Politicians and government should remain entirely neutral – and that, frankly, should mean ejecting the bishops from the house of Lords – and how is that for marginalisation, eh? Their representatives are involved in our law making, affecting those of us who do not share this belief of theirs.
But Lord Carey wrote in the Daily Mail that the government seemed to be “aiding and abetting” aggressive secularisation.
Ah, yes, that old wanker Pope Benedict was prattling on about that when he came over the other year. Secularisation, aggressive or otherwise is a good thing, not a bad one. A secular society allows religions to practice whatever daft beliefs they choose – and those of us who do not, may abstain with impunity. Secularisation is far, far better than the alternative where religion dictates how we may live our lives. We’ve been there and we have seen how it works and we should never revisit it. That Christianity has become a slightly eccentric sideshow is no bad thing. We need to ensure that this applies equally to all the other daft cults out there that would like to impose their warped morality on the rest of us.
Many Christians doubted the sincerity of Mr Cameron’s support of Christians’ right to practise their faith, he said.
Given that no one – Cameron included – has done anything to prevent Christians practice their faith, this is pure nonsense – akin to the complaints we get from Christians about the non-existent war on Christmas – pure puff designed to make out they are suffering some sort of discrimination. They are not. No one is stopping them go to church on Sunday and talking to imaginary beings in the sky, sipping some wine and eating bits of bread and pretending that it is the manifestation of a long dead body that probably didn’t exist in the first place – let alone defy basic biology and physics.
Lord Carey also that said a recent ComRes poll suggested “more than two-thirds of Christians feel that they are part of a ‘persecuted minority'”.
“Their fears may be exaggerated because few in the UK are actually persecuted, but the prime minister has done more than any other recent political leader to feed these anxieties.”
The daft old bugger has just answered his own question – no one is being persecuted for being a Christian, so they are exaggerated. They are perfectly free to go about their activities unmolested and unharmed. They are not a persecuted minority. The first century Christians knew what it was to be a persecuted minority – the comfortable lives lived by 21st Century Christians cannot be compared and to use such rhetoric makes Carey look ridiculous. But, then, this man believes in invisible, supernatural beings, so ridiculous is his stock in trade.
I’d like to know which part of “separation of Church and State” Mr. Carey doesn’t understand. I’d also have more time for Christians if they could make up their bloody minds how to pronounce the name of their bloody ‘saviour’: is it pronounced like “Chris” (Christmas, Christianity), or “Christ”? They’ve had 2000 years to work it out, for f*ck’s sake!
Besides, we all know government has no right to tell people how to think or what to believe. That’s Rupert Murdoch’s job.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/are-you-being-persecuted-2013033064361
Precisely.
The Daily Mash hits the nail on the head. There is also some discussion on this subject at the “Platitude of the Day” blog which does a daily parody of the Radio Four 7:50 God Slot.
http://www.platitudes.org.uk/platblog/index.php
Pathetic little whiner, isn’t he (Carey)?
And there is nothing to whine about.
If they take having their opinions ignored, because they are an insignificant minority, they I must agree.
However, I ignore their opinion due to them being an insignificant minority.
It is called democracy, they MAY have heard of the concept.
Christians certainly are being persecuted… but not in the UK. For persecution of Christians, you have to look at Afghanistan, Algeria, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, half of Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia and Turkey and other places I haven’t mentioned.
When there is genuine persecution of Christians happening in the world… the Archbishop doesn’t want to talk about that. He wants to whine and complain about those evil secularists, those people who want freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
That would mean having to do something courageous – speak out against the ROP.