Owen Jones; Idiot

January 27, 2014 Longrider General News, General Rants, Political 16

I read this idiotic and childish bunkum yesterday, but was too busy packing for today to respond. That this moron has a vote is worrying. Also what is worrying is that the Indy gives such fucking stupidity the oxygen of publicity. As Tim points out, Jones’ moronic and vile ideas have been tried – multiple times – and on each occasion they have failed. Owen Jones has failed to look at history and learn the lessons therein. Socialism is evil. Jones however is young enough to be excused with the charge of naiveté – just. The Indy has no such excuse for publishing what is nothing more than student union politics of the most misanthropic kind. Jones and the Indy really need a time machine to take them back to the seventies – or, perhaps the USSR. I can recall both with enough clarity to know that I want nothing of Jones’ vile little nine-point agenda. If I wanted to live in a communist shit-hole, I could have defected during the cold war.

Of course all that free money Jones wants to use to fund his idiotic “fair society” is stolen from the productive – people such as I who work bloody hard to earn it.

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Update: I appear to be pissing off all the right people – and I have a nerve apparently:

Socialist doesn’t like it when socialism is called for what it is; misanthropic totalitarianism. There’s a surprise. Still, if you’ve never made enemies, you’ve not stood up for anything and in my case, my enemies are all the right people – fucking socialists. So, yeah, I am calling Jones an idiot (and it didn’t take any nerve at all, it was remarkably nerve free) – as is obvious from his support for a failed ideology that steals from the productive and this tweeter twatter is cut from the same cloth. As I and Tim have already said – this dreadful crap has been tried and found wanting. It’s nothing more than piss-poor student union politics at its worst.

Well, yes, you are and I’m more than happy to point it out for you; pleased to be of service.

16 Comments

  1. You do of course realise that this cunt of all ages will probably end up in some featherbedded non-job in a “charity” or quango or he’ll become a professional atention whore (politician, meeja etc) of some description on obscene pay with silver plated pension and perks.

    I can imagine the “shareholders” meeting of one of these “publically owned” banks. Nobody, because I doubt if many of these class warriors could actually be bothered to get of their useless lazy arses.

    I truly don’t know whether to laught or cry.

    • One of the things that wound me up about this vile little jackanape was his attitude towards private rental and landlords. In his infantile world they are top hatted caped villains twirling their moustaches. Yet the reality is very different. Out here in the real world, I know a landlord. He has a number of properties and being in the building trade maintains them himself. He does not make a great profit – enough to make a living. He is a small business man providing a much needed service at the market rate. If his rents were regulated by the state, a mortgage rate increase would rapidly wipe him out. The market exists for a reason and no one is being forced to rent from him.

      Oh yeah and we get the puerile tax avoidance canard. Fortunately, being self-employed I can utilise effective tax avoidance to minimise the amount of money extorted from me by the vile socialist scum this creature espouses.

  2. “Jones however is young enough to be excused with the charge of naiveté – just.”

    I wouldn’t let him off so easily.

    He’s nearly 30, and he’s got a degree (amazingly enough in history) and a masters from Oxford.

    I assume that their standards haven’t slipped so much you only need to present one side of an argument in a paper.

    Meaning he either knows what he’s writing’s total bullshit, but he just doesn’t care, he believes he’s going to be one of those in charge so the fate of the little people is irrelevant to him.

    Or he doesn’t give a shit about anything and he’s just writing what he thinks people want to hear.

  3. In 1868 (I think) C P Snow wrote that it was possible to graduate from Oxford or Cambridge with the highest honours without ever having heard that the earth went round the sun. He was referring to the divide between arts and sciences about which he had his concerns.

    What this tool represents is something infinitely more insidious and damaging. Views such as his have to be actively taught. It’s not higher education, it’s higher propaganda.

    Screamingly obvious to anybody old enough to have had a proper education, and I include in that having lived in the real world.

    • The real world – if you have the courage to make your way in it knocks socialist ideas out of you. I was a socialist in my youth. Having to work to earn my way in the world and seeing the ever-burgeoning state helping itself to around half of my labour, I changed my mind. When I see people spouting this teenage fuckwittery, my blood boils. I get up early and work bloody hard and he wants to steal it to pay for his “fair” society – which in essence means redistributing my product to those who are not productive – and to piss it away on third sector parasites in the quangos and fake charities who sponge off the taxpayer without producing anything of value. Scum. Vile, evil scum.

    • Indeed and they give this nonsense airspace and there are people stupid enough to believe that it works – despite the lessons of history. Socialism is built on the bodies of the dead. It is a hateful ideology.

  5. Good grief!

    The most alarming thing is not the article itself, it is the number of people actually agreeing with the idiot!

    • But these will be fellow travellers, socialists et al who hate capitalism and don’t really understand how markets work. They also believe in the money tree.

  6. “Even though her employer makes hundreds of millions of pounds of profit a year, it is the taxpayer who has to step in and subsidise those poverty wages to give Mary a chance to pay the bills and feed her children.”

    Last time I checked, Mr. Jones, “employers” were taxpayers too. Indeed, most businesses, large and small, actually contribute their “fair” share of taxes. It’s not their fault if the venal and corrupt politicians have changed the rules. Last time I checked, corporations didn’t get the vote.

    *

    The nine points manifesto is nothing that hasn’t been heard before, and there are even a few needles of value among all that irrelevant hay: Italy has loads of local and regional banks with statutory requirements to invest a minimum amount each year in their local businesses and economies. This actually works well and means Italy never saw the massive bank bailouts the UK had to deal with. (Yes, a couple of the bigger names had to receive tax monies, but Italy’s financial woes are long-term structural problems, and mostly unrelated to the crash of 2008.) Similarly, you’ll find plenty of successful cooperatives along similar lines to the John Lewis Partnership. Even the various “Coop” supermarkets are still run the old-fashioned CWS way.

    So, yes, *in moderation*, socialism, with a small ‘s’, can, and does, work.

    But Socialism with a capital ‘S’ tends towards totalitarianism. At the theoretical level, where everyone is ‘equal’, you end up having to deal with a fundamental human trait: tribalism. The sheep *crave* shepherds.

    Furthermore, it’s too easy to attack symptoms instead of causes. To wit:

    “Resolve the housing crisis by regulating private rents and lifting the cap on councils to let them build hundreds of thousands of houses…”

    The rents will regulate themselves. The main reason they’re so high is precisely *because* there is so little housing available. Landlords need to pay their mortgages too – and, yes, they also have to pay taxes – but if more housing is built, that reduces the pressure on existing housing stock, which will result in house prices falling. Lower house prices = lower mortgages = lower rents. The one begets the other.

    I was going to do a point-by-point rebuttal, but (a) this blog isn’t The Independent, and (b) I ain’t getting paid for it. Suffice to say I only agree (and even then, only with some caveats) with Point 5 and 7. The rest are poppycock of the worst kind.

    • Indeed. I didn’t bother with a point-by-point rebuttal because Tim Worstall had already done it and I didn’t want to lose the will to live. It was sufficient to point out that this baloney is bunkum and the author is an idiot.

  7. Point of information
    “Socialism” is not communism.
    Nor vice versa, though they do get confused.
    Jones appears to be heading down the latter, deeply unpleasant road, though he’s not there yet.
    Although there are SOME “greedy Bankers” who could do with a good squeezing, putting everyone who gets more than £100 000 a year into that bracket is … STUPID

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