Er, No…

We do not need another referendum.

The Independent today launches a campaign to win for the British people the right to a final say on Brexit.

We had one of those two years ago. We were asked if we wanted to remain in the European Union or leave the European Union. The majority who voted chose to leave. That’s it. Really, that’s all there is to it. The malarkey that has followed was entirely unnecessary and we could expect the EU to negotiate in bad faith, which they have. That we have a remainer in overall charge hasn’t helped. But, no, we really do not need to go through it all again. We voted to leave, so leave we should, now, please. If those who prefer that we remain wish to campaign to go back in, once we have left – accepting Shengen and the Euro, then let them.

12 Comments

  1. After the events of yesterday I suspect that May’s categorical refusal to countenance a 2nd plebis-cide may not survive much longer than a newly appointed Brexit Bulldog.

    • Is it me or has she just set herself up as dictator? The country isn’t happy with her proposal, parliament isn’t happy with her proposal. Even if it’s informal, she clearly has no mandate to push it. So she puts herself in charge of the negotiations (deputising Olly Robbins), and turns the department she set up for the specific purpose of negotiation into a vehicle for implementing whatever they cook up with the EU.

      She is clearly not fit to lead a democratic nation.

      • ‘just set herself up as a dictator’? ‘just‘? Right from the word go her premiership has been solely about removing the sovereignty of Parliament and replacing it with the sovereignty of the Cabinet…..ie HERSELF.

  2. Project Fear – The Maybot Reboot

    From BBC Newsnight yesterday:

    @6min
    “…And there are some Remainers who want in the words of one Theresa May supporting Tory MP said to me this afternoon,
    “we want to scare people witless so that people will eventually embrace the Theresa May plan”.
    Important to say that is not Matt Hancock…”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bcq6lv

    Why did BBC add “Important…not Matt Hancock”?

  3. Clearly, we need a referendum to decide if we want a referendum on the final deal.

    We have already voted to leave the EU, all that is left to decide is the terms of that exit. Were there to be a second referendum, the question would be whether we accept or reject May’s sellout of Brexit. Yes would mean we leave on May’s terms, no would mean we left with no deal. Stopping Brexit would not be an option.

    We should make very clear to the EU that a no deal Brexit would mean payments to the EU would cease.

    • The referendum vote was quite clear, Cameron’s 9 million pound pamphlet stated quite categorically that voting to leave the EU meant leaving ALL of it, the customs union, the single market, the ECJ and the EU itself. There was nothing about a vote on the terms of any “deal”

      It must happen or “they” are going to pay the consequences.

  4. Having read the comments by a potato crisp salesman about us leaving the EU, can we have a referendum on whether or not to tell Gary Linecker to shut the f–k up?

  5. I think that it is a matter of grave concern that democracy is gone. I have known for a long time that there was no democratic accountability within the EU. The European Parliament being nothing but window dressing to fool the prols into thinking that they have a meaningful vote, nothing but an expensive talking shop and gravy train. You would think that the remainers would have noticed that the EU has a president but does not have presidential elections. So, we vote to leave the dictatorship and find that we have sleepwalked into a dictatorship at home. We have a political class that are willfully ignoring the will of the people. Not only that but the whole lot of them seem to be completely devoid of intelligence, knowledge about literally anything, or any principles whatsoever. They also exhibit the Dunning Kruger effect by being totally convinced that they know best, that they are so much cleverer than their superiors.

    I despair.

    • EU Commission creates laws; as a member UK Gov’t is legally compelled to enact & enforce them.

      Most are rubber-stamp added to UK Law as Statutory Instruments and never debated in Parliament.

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