If you tot up all the other parties’ votes, they came to more than the Brexit Party vote, so remain won.
Fuck me, I was only joking…
Yes, the undemocratic old scrote is saying precisely that…
Update:
I see that the Guardian has article after article written by the usual suspects making the same claims. This was a clear victory for “Remain”. Why do I think about Monty Python’s black knight here? What this does tell us is that these people clearly have no concept of a democratic result and cannot take losing with good grace. The usual complaint is that FPTP is unfair because it does not accurately represent voting patterns, so all those lost votes didn’t count. What we need is PR so that voting patterns are accurately reflected in the result. Well, we just had PR and the voting patterns were accurately reflected and the Brexit Party swept the board. And the fuckers are still whining, complaining and trying to ignore the result.
This is no longer about Brexit. It is about the corrupt nature of our political establishment and the vile media that underpins it. Sooner or later the quiet majority will lose patience. We have used the ballot box and still they won’t listen.
OK, I sort of agree and think that we should roll out that principle to every election.
Now, let me see … in General Elections, the turn out is usually in the 30% to 40% range. Surely that means 60% to 70% of people have zero confidence in the political process?
That way, we can claim that the Government has no legitimacy as the majority of the electorate did not support them by voting (and that excludes the ones that voted for there rivals.
Sounds good to me.
Or does it only count when Thick as Mince Cable doesn’t win? People want to know, you know.
Doh! I meant and that excludes the ones that voted for their rivals.
The old finger being faster to hit the publish button than the proof reading brain.
Given that the Tories and Labour say they are in favour of (some form of) Brexit, I make that 58.1% pro-Brexit and 35.8% for the explicitly pro-Remain parties. Win!
Apparently the Labour and Tory votes didn’t count.
Because they fixed the result in their own mind and 58.1% for leave simply makes them cry. Diddums.
Also, bear in mind that not every LibDem, Green or SNP voter is a Remainer. In 2016 25% of LibDem voters supported Leave. 35% of SNP supporters did the same.
The capacity for self-delusion is strong in them…
According to J B Priestley we (ie some of us ) are very good at self delusion . There seems to quite a lot of it about at the moment – see BBC, Vince Cable, Alistair Campbell etc
Now Blair, apparently, is joining the Remain won delusionists. Still what did you expect
Slightly confused here, but I am only a voter!
Outside of general elections Lib Dem’s often do well, reason is disillusioned voters of the two main parties. So how come they suddenly believe that their policies are what the voters want?
I am glad that across Europe the Green Party did well, proves people care about the planet and the wildlife who don’t have a vote. But the votes for them was not necessarily a vote to remain, it was a vote to save the planet. Something the main parties don’t do well on.
If the remainers wanted to prove the country wanted to remain then they should have put their own party up to compete against the Brexit party! Oops my son just informed me they did it was the UK change party! Not sure they got many votes as can’t see their colour on the map!
A local optician on seeing the results across Europe said the rise in national parties was because the people want to feel loved by their country. What a lovely and true observation by a non Uk European living in the UK.
The Lib Dems are plagued with delusion. Recall David Steel and his “go back to your constituencies and prepare for government” speech. Nothing changes. They are a protest party, nothing more. They are neither liberal nor democratic in nature. The Greens might appeal on the outside, but they are hard left on the inside. Change UK (but really stay the same UK) bombed.
Your optician is right – nationalist populism is simply a display of love for one’s country and culture. There’s nothing wrong with it, despite a nasty media campaign to claim the opposite.
I can remember when Margaret Thatcher was winning landslide election victories, that the lefties were claiming that really she had lost because if you added up all the people that didn’t vote for her she really really had lost.
Indeed. But when Labour won a 100+ seat majority based on less than 25% of eligible voters it was different. Because reasons.
If you put it in terms of official party positioning, based on GB share of vote: ‘No Deal’ got c.35%, ‘Remain’ got c.41%, and ‘Confused/Soft Brexit/BRINO’ got c.23%. So it could be taken as support for Leave, but it does put the final nail in the coffin of revisionist claims that the people voting for Leave actually wanted ‘No Deal’, and all the extravagant cake and eat it claims made during the referendum were just collective delusions. Although we’re no further down the track, it does mean reactionary Tory Party members are likely to elect a PM who will promise ‘No Deal’, this will inevitably bring down the government and we’ll move towards a general election that will break the impasse. Even if it’s just Labour promising a ‘confirmatory vote’, that would be enough to put ‘No Deal’ to an explicit democratic vote. Good if you genuinely believe ‘No Deal’ is what people voted for first time round, bad if you think that ‘No Deal’ isn’t what they actually bought into.