Suing the government over the lock down.
A Monaco-based aviation tycoon worth £141million is suing the government over the Covid-19 lockdown describing it as ‘draconian’ and ‘wrecking the economy’.
Well, yes it is and yes, it is.
Mr Dolan told The Guardian: ‘The lockdown is telling us to stop living to avoid dying.
I’ve been saying something very similar myself – usually to people who have their fingers in their ears.
To imprison people in their homes is an extremely dramatic decision to make.
Yup and as Peter Hitchens pointed out in one of the radio interviews he did recently, the amount of deaths does not correlate to the level of lock-down. Those who claim that a draconian lock-down saves lives have fallen for the propaganda. It does not and was never intended to. The whole purpose was to slow the rate of infection so that ICU capacity could cope. It does not save lives. Indeed, the government has come under fire over the saving lives bullshit. There isn’t a government on the planet that can stop this thing from killing people. The best they can do is slow the spread. Once they lift the restrictions, the next wave will hit. Better, then not to have the restrictions and allow it to work its course.
‘By forcing people to stay at home, and forcing businesses to close, they are, we believe, in contravention of basic Human Rights offered under English Law, that of the right to enjoy your property peacefully.
‘The lockdown has and will lead to devastating economic impact (massive unemployment, tax increases, closure of businesses, reduced tax receipts etc) It has, and will lead to far more deaths from suicide, undiagnosed conditions, untreated conditions – indeed far more than would have been potentially saved by the lockdown.
‘What we wish to achieve in bringing this case, is simply the freedom of individuals – the freedom to visit friends, freedom to earn a living, to socialise, in essence, the freedom of choice. That, of course, includes the freedom to stay inside – should you choose.’
If anything, we have learned this past few weeks just how little modern Britons value liberty, indeed how nasty and authoritarian they are.
If you have the stomach for it, the idiocy in the comments sums it up. All of them missing the point by a parsec and a half.
If there’s one thing about the lockdown I am sick of trying to get through to people it is “The whole purpose was to slow the rate of infection so that ICU capacity could cope. It does not save lives.” They just will not have it, by genuine lack of understanding or deliberate not-wanting-to-understand, I don’t know.
And “An earlier lockdown would have saved lives.” No, no, no!
Yup. The hard-of-thinking it hurts. And even when you explain it to people you think are rational and sensible and may be persuaded by reason, evidence and logic, you come away so frustrated you want to bang your head against a wall.
Bit like trying to get through to a family member (who owns a yacht) that wind power cannot be relied on. I once challenged her to go for a long journey with the engine & bow thruster disabled, but the response was of the “deliberate not-wanting-to-understand” variety…
I’m the family pariah because I won’t go outside and make a stupid noise at 2000 on a Thursday . . . .
It seems to be dying out here. Last Thursday only a couple of people out.
Thinking of making a formal complaint under the nuisance regulations. It stipulates that a nuisance must be ‘persistent and abatable’ – the weekly clap/car-horn/firework/kitchen-utensil thrashing meets those two criteria, so the local authority has a statutory duty to intervene and cause the nuisance to cease. that could be fun . . .
@LR
Lockdown Making Virus more virulent?
First seen:
Alex on Monday 20th April 2020 at 11:37
https://hectordrummond.com/2020/04/20/avoiding-deaths-cannot-be-the-be-all-and-end-all-of-public-policy/#comment-20212
Now Spectator:
Could the lockdown have side-effects no one has considered?
This virus is still evolving
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/could-the-lockdown-have-side-effects-no-one-has-considered
Fixed: “No One in MSM/Gov/PHE has considered”
Gov would learn more reading “right” blogs than they do obeying “Left” ‘scientists’
eg “BAME” vulnerabilty I’ve been posting since early March and saying Gov must be racist
Gov would learn more reading “right” blogs than they do obeying “Left” ‘scientists’
Ha, ha! True though.
Sorry, Spec UK article paywalled
Try this
https://spectator.us/could-lockdown-side-effects-considered/
Here in New Zealand we have been in lockdown for the same time as you. We have this week relaxed some of the restrictions and some people are back at work. All this for a grand total of 20 deaths, all of whom were old and had living in care homes.I think all of them had only a very limited time left anyway.( I think I can say this as an 82 year old who is not making any really long term plans.) Has it been worthwhile ? I doubt it.
Dear Mr D
New Zealand and Australia, both in lockup during the tail end of summer, are now approaching flu season, or as we may come to call it, corona season.
It will be ineresting to see how that pans out.
DP
Like the madeup% of people who are morbidly obese the 60% of Britons scared to resume normal life (Jeremy Vine et al) must all live up north. I have not met any of them and the older a person that I talk to is the more they say the virus should run its course, same as before lockdown.
I get out & about quite a bit (legitimately) and now see ambulances/ paremedic cars standing by where they used to stand by unlike the first week of lockdown racing about night and day sirens blaring with No Traffic to create an air of ‘OMG it must be bad’.
I believe the numbers in hospital with the CV19 are now falling off, quite significantly. The net flow is releases from hospital.
Dear Mr Longrider
ONS publish weekly death statistics on Tuesdays at https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
Currently up to week 16 ending 17 April.
Mr Drummond has analysed week 15 data at https://hectordrummond.com/2020/04/22/week-15-ons-line-graphs
The second graph shows week 15 has reached the same level as week 2 in 2015. Week 16 85+ deaths are 9.5k.
The data and graphs show which age groups are at risk – namely anyone under 44 is as safe as they always are from disease – but the data doesn’t show how much more they are now at risk from government.
The data should show a drop soon as the virus runs out of susceptible people, perhaps as dramatically as the rise.
DP
The lockdown was there to flatten the curve, to spread out the influx of the really sick to a level the NHS ICU could cope with. It had nothing to do with reducing deaths. FFS. Are so many people that utterly stupid that they don’t understand what spreading out means? dx/dt though | expect 99.9% of them never managed calculus.
The short answer to your question is “yes”.
Yep, absolutely do not get it.
I saw it nicely put as ‘the area under the curve will remain the same, just the shape changes’.
However full ICU was not necessary, extra care and pressuried oxygen mask sufficient.
ICU inc ventilators and deliberate dehydration caused more harm, kidney damage and death
Peak infections were a few days before lockdown, curve already flatlining. Lockdown was not necessary, it was politically driven “seen to be doing something” same as Nightingale hospitals. Now Pols fear ending will show it did nothing as cases will spike again, possibly a more virulent strain
World Health Organization Hails No-Lockdown as ‘Model’ for Other Nations
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/04/30/world-health-organization-hails-no-lockdown-sweden-model-other-nations/