No possibility of herd immunity?
But Oxford Vaccine Group director Prof Sir Andrew Pollard has warned that herd immunity is “not a possibility”.
Really? Really? So what is the point?
Oh and we get the usual codswallop from the buffoon of Downing Street.
The prime minister hailed the “incredible vaccine rollout” and said it had provided vital protection against the virus for three-quarters of adults.
“It’s so important that those who haven’t been vaccinated come forward as soon as possible to book their jab – to protect themselves, protect their loved ones and allow us all to enjoy our freedoms safely,” he said.
I am heartily sick of this vacuous nonsense. Having the vaccine protects those who are vaccinated and that’s assuming that this is a conventional vaccine that provides immunity and none of these ones do. Those who have declined are merely exposing themselves to a potential risk – a known risk compared with an unknown one given the lack of long term data. A small one, frankly, despite the lurid scare stories about those who have repented on their deathbeds. Bear in mind that these are very rare instances – if they weren’t, they wouldn’t be news. Given that the vaccines do not confer immunity, then being vaccinated or not merely makes a difference in the potential severity of symptoms. The idea that the unvaccinated are some sort of plague carriers is propaganda. Anyone can get it and anyone can pass it on regardless of vaccine status – that’s what they keep telling us when they aren’t telling us that we need to have it to protect others. Yet the hard of thinking still regale us with their moronic arguments that we, the unvaccinated, will infect them, while ignoring that they could just as readily be the ones infecting us (it’s just that we are more willing to accept the risk and respect their decisions). It’s always a one way argument. The lack of logic here is staggering only in the willingness of people to believe it. If the vaccine works, then why are we worried about refuseniks? If the vaccine doesn’t work, then why are we worried about refuseniks?
As for our freedoms, these scumbags need to be hanged drawn and quartered for what they have done to those liberties.
But Sir Andrew told MPs the idea of herd immunity was “mythical” with the Delta variant, now dominant in the UK, still infecting people who had been vaccinated.
He said while vaccines might “slow the process” of transmission down, they currently cannot stop the spread completely.
So a waste of time, effort and money, then. If they reduce symptoms, then fine, offer it to those most vulnerable and let the rest of us rely on our immune systems – it is, after all, what they are there for.
Another liar, the vaccine doesn’t slow the transmission at all, as the latest studies in Marseille are showing. Based on actual data, not models, asymptomatic vaccinated positive cases transmit as much as unvaccinated positive cases.
It is about politics, not science.
Icing on the cake, the proportion of vaccinated people ending up in ICU is no different from unvaccinated. Slight caveat, the numbers are very low in both cases because they treat people early.
The thing that I’ve found the most depressing in all of this is that the vast majority of people just don’t bother to inform themselves at all. These are important matters and we all have to make important decisions that affect ourselves and other people. Yet when a politician or “scientist” tells folk that the Covid vaccine has the same properties as a conventional vaccine, they don’t know enough to call them out on it. Of course the utterly worthless media don’t even see that as their job any more.
No possibility of herd immunity?
In the same way we were told that you cannot be “vaccinated” against the common cold or the influenza virus because it keeps changing so that last years vaccine against last years flu no longer works. This is why the whole “annual flu shot” is mired in ineffectiveness to the point of being worthless.
As for the various “vaccines”, since they don’t prevent the disease (just reduce the symptoms, allegedly), don’t prevent transmission and don’t enable any form of immunity (herd or otherwise), then they are little more than a placebo and at the ACTUAL RISK of all sorts of short term and long term side-effects from what remain, even today, drugs which have not completed full drugs testing and aren’t even scheduled to complete until well in 2023.
I’m not a COVID-19 denialist, conspiracy theorist or other tinfoil hat wearing nut job, but we’re now in full blown hysteria which has been aided and abetted by the WHO, UN and most of our governments, national and local.
Heads need to roll and this madness needs to be prevented from recurring.
Last year this bloody disease emerged late in winter, deaths peaked in early April and then declined quickly, reaching negligible levels in summer. This year we saw the expected re-emergence in autumn/winter followed by the usual decline. However, rather than last year’s often single-figure daily deaths at this time, we are seeing figures up to ten times higher – despite the magical elixir. What’s going on?
“allow us all to enjoy our freedoms safely”. And some people wonder why I don’t vote…
I’ve stopped.
I don’t know who to vote for, but I knew I didn’t want Labour to get in, so I put a big X in the box next to them.
Whenever anybody says that something is “incredible”, I tend to believe them.