Meaningless

Without context, this is meaningless nonsense.

The UK’s main statistical body has reported more than 175,000 deaths involving Covid since the start of the pandemic.

The ONS has reported 176,035 deaths where Covid was mentioned on the death certificate since March 2020. The figure differs significantly from the government’s official count – which exceeded 150,000 deaths over the weekend – which requires patients to have had a positive test within 28 days before their death.

Testing positive and dying in a road traffic incident would qualify. What matters is how many people would ordinarily have dies in that period, how many excess deaths were there and how many died of covid and how many merely tested positive while being treated for something else?

The reality is that those who died because of covid is going to be a significantly smaller number, so this 175,000 deaths stuff is pure bullshit designed to keep the scaremongering going. 175,000 people dying over a two year period is not particularly huge. More than average, maybe, but given the incidence of a novel virus, not surprising. People are dying all the time. It’s to do with us being mortal beings. Mortality is a fact of life, which some seem to have forgotten.

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  1. LR – I know you know this and as you say context is everything, but the average number of deaths each year in the UK from 1990 to 2019 is 530,000 with a low of 484,367 in 2011 and a high of 578,512 in 1993. (ONS – https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsintheukfrom1990to2020). The same ONS stats show 608,002 for 2020 so the “pandemic” resulted in an extra 70,000 deaths over the 30-year average (or should we perhaps say accelerated 70,000 deaths?).

    But in reality even these stark numbers are out of context as they take no account of the growth in population; we should perhaps be looking at the mortality rates per 100,000 which the ONS give as crude and age-standardized – 2020 scrapes in at no 15 in the crude chart and no 20 in the age-standardized. On top of the table is 1993 when the H3N2 Influenza A was running wild.

    Each death is a tragedy for their family and loved ones and I am very lucky that I have not lost anyone close to me, but that won’t last – I have an 85 year old father with dementia, and 82-year old mother with blood pressure issues and a 90+ mother in law. Its a matter of when, not if. And I won’t blame Covid, but I may just blame our Government, media and all of the stupid sheep who swallow it hock, line and sinker..

  2. I don’t see old people dying as being a tragedy. People dying young is a tragedy but when we get old we eventually die, it is inevitable. Most of us would rather not depart just yet but we all know that, sooner or later, we must, that is inevitable.

    • I suspect that the initial wave merely accelerated the inevitable. But, yeah, for those directly affected it’s a tragedy. I mourned my mother when she died days after losing my wife, but it was my wife’s death that really tore me apart for she was still too young.

  3. Also if we are looking simply at the figure for excess deaths some will be the result of Government scaremongering and lockdowns rather than Covid. Deaths caused by the Government’s unethical and futile policies are going to affect the figures for years to come.

    • Lockdowns and refusal of early treatment with hcq or ivermectin have resulted and will result in 1000s of extra deaths, that fact is irrefutable if the actual number can be argued about.

      That is why I hope that eventually doris, hancock and al will end up behind bars.

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