The Scheme is symptomatic of the carefully considered intelligent policies this Government is well known for. Bribing rich people to buy an expensive and in many circumstances ineffective product is so worthwhile.
I could never afford one even if i wanted one which i don’t.
If only we had the Anthropogenic Global Warming they promised us 20, 15, 10 years ago we might have had some warm air to suck the heat out of.
But as it is we would all trying to squeeze blood out of a stone.
Cooling the freezing air that our neighbours hope to extract heat from.
Yes, f, f,f, fuck right off on your bio-degradable wooden bike.
off topic thus I apologise but I guess I am boycotting Heineken now as well as bud light
I really like Carlsberg Export. So for once I will actually be giving up a beer that I do actually drink. As always, you need to read the labels because, chances are, all the other beers that I like are brewed by Heineken or Carlsberg.
I have just checked and found that one of my favourite beers, Tiger Singapore Lager, is brewed by Heineken in the UK. No more Tiger Beer for me.
No more Carlsberg for me. Just emailed them to tell them why. Had to go to their website to do it, you should take a look – it’s frightening.
Time to try the real Budweiser, the good Czech stuff.
That and Staropramen.
Maybe made in UK, I don’t know, but still good.
We should make our own beer. I used to make it and with price rises it must be cost effective now. Then you can decide who you want to boycott easier.
Thanks for this info – done
Heineken doesn’t seem to have anything I drink. Please check any heineken led pubs too that you might usually visit. I know one in my area, it’s shite anyway.
I don’t think this will get the same momentum as the Bud Light one, unfortunately. Golliwogs don’t appear to have the same resonance, even though the root problem is exactly the same; companies imposing their politics on their customers.
I see that the Beeb in its reports on the saga have renamed the toys “Golly Dolls”. Perhaps if they’d always been called that they wouldn’t have become ‘offensive’….
Chances are, you’re drinking Heineken without realising it. Guinness? As of 2019, Heineken owns over 165 breweries in more than 70 countries.
If you get £5000 off what does it cost???? I can’t fit one in and can’t afford one. There are better things that can be done like treble glazing and loft insulation. Also consider whether you can use less.
£8k to £10k is a conservative estimate.
Smacks of desperation on the part of the government if they’re having to spam the nation to try and flog their electric home tepiders (since they don’t actually provide any heat to speak of).
I’m with Longrider.
They need to fuck off.
A free market economy finds the best ways of doing things just by being a free market economy. Is using up the Earth’s resources a problem? Well actually I doubt it but if it was, the free market economy just naturally finds the best route simply because resources cost money. If heat pumps where the best solution for heating your house, a free market economy would make them hugely popular. The fact that the government is trying to bribe people to buy them tells you everything that you need to know. This stuff really isn’t difficult to understand.
Well the Ad isn’t technically dishonest, and an air source heat pump will ‘transform’ how you ‘heat’ your home whilst massively increasing your electrickery bill during Winter.
A bore hole ground source heat pump will work, but you’re talking an initial outlay of around 25-30K.
Best lay off messages coming from the Telling Bone.
’tis the very conjuration of evil spirits.
I live in New Zealand where a lot of people (including me) heat their houses with heat pumps. They work ,up to a point.Where I am in the bottom half of the South Island, it never gets very cold (except in the Central parts). What they do there I have no idea.
Although the pumps can cope with temperatures down to zero, they are struggling below that and the new ones are clearly marked with the warning. Although they can keep a constant temperature of 19/20 deg. it may still feel chilly as there is no radiant heat given out like a fire or radiator. A lot of the time they are used as a background and many houses use woodburning stoves, either pellets or logs. Supplying wood is a popular way to earn a living in winter and trailer loads of wood make ideal raffle prizes in charity raffles.
I was looking at new heat pumps the other day in one of our local Diy chains and they are retailing from 2000 to 4000 NZ dollars (about 1000/2000 pounds) with installation costs depending on position and complexity of fitting.
Would they be suitable to heat UK houses? probably not any of the older ones , they depend on a more open plan to spread the heat , and I think most would be struggling to cope with a real British winter.
Heat pumps suck. I’m an HVAC guy in Houston Fucking Texas, and I know whereof I speak. The real killer in climate control is scale. The whole of the Houston Medical Center as well as Rice University is served by a set of boilers and chillers. Rice students have made a cult of travelling the steam tunnels (careful, that one comes up in the Lion enclosure in the Zoo. No shit.) It is of course very capital-intensive, but it works like a charm. Doesn’t really scale down to the standard homeowner/renter level, which is a shame and a sin.
I ran a medical/professional building for a while. As engineer, I was expected to do a monthly check on every oh-so-lovely heat exchanger in the building. They had retrofit a perfectly good boiler and chill water system for 270 heat pumps, plenum mounted, and an hour to do the function check. I had to draw (personally, by hand) a full set of blueprints for the whole building. Not to mention shit like ‘The breakroom’s cold, do something about it!’ I’ll just move your 20 cup Bunn coffee maker from its spot RIGHT UNDER THE THERMOSTAT.
I went to look into heat pump. Found that all the named providers under the gov. Scheme wont provide as they never get paid and are owed many thousands. So don’t bother.
The Scheme is symptomatic of the carefully considered intelligent policies this Government is well known for. Bribing rich people to buy an expensive and in many circumstances ineffective product is so worthwhile.
I could never afford one even if i wanted one which i don’t.
If only we had the Anthropogenic Global Warming they promised us 20, 15, 10 years ago we might have had some warm air to suck the heat out of.
But as it is we would all trying to squeeze blood out of a stone.
Cooling the freezing air that our neighbours hope to extract heat from.
Yes, f, f,f, fuck right off on your bio-degradable wooden bike.
off topic thus I apologise but I guess I am boycotting Heineken now as well as bud light
not that I ever drank their piss
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-65471314
I really like Carlsberg Export. So for once I will actually be giving up a beer that I do actually drink. As always, you need to read the labels because, chances are, all the other beers that I like are brewed by Heineken or Carlsberg.
I have just checked and found that one of my favourite beers, Tiger Singapore Lager, is brewed by Heineken in the UK. No more Tiger Beer for me.
No more Carlsberg for me. Just emailed them to tell them why. Had to go to their website to do it, you should take a look – it’s frightening.
Time to try the real Budweiser, the good Czech stuff.
That and Staropramen.
Maybe made in UK, I don’t know, but still good.
We should make our own beer. I used to make it and with price rises it must be cost effective now. Then you can decide who you want to boycott easier.
Thanks for this info – done
Heineken doesn’t seem to have anything I drink. Please check any heineken led pubs too that you might usually visit. I know one in my area, it’s shite anyway.
I don’t think this will get the same momentum as the Bud Light one, unfortunately. Golliwogs don’t appear to have the same resonance, even though the root problem is exactly the same; companies imposing their politics on their customers.
I see that the Beeb in its reports on the saga have renamed the toys “Golly Dolls”. Perhaps if they’d always been called that they wouldn’t have become ‘offensive’….
Chances are, you’re drinking Heineken without realising it. Guinness? As of 2019, Heineken owns over 165 breweries in more than 70 countries.
If you get £5000 off what does it cost???? I can’t fit one in and can’t afford one. There are better things that can be done like treble glazing and loft insulation. Also consider whether you can use less.
£8k to £10k is a conservative estimate.
Smacks of desperation on the part of the government if they’re having to spam the nation to try and flog their electric home tepiders (since they don’t actually provide any heat to speak of).
I’m with Longrider.
They need to fuck off.
A free market economy finds the best ways of doing things just by being a free market economy. Is using up the Earth’s resources a problem? Well actually I doubt it but if it was, the free market economy just naturally finds the best route simply because resources cost money. If heat pumps where the best solution for heating your house, a free market economy would make them hugely popular. The fact that the government is trying to bribe people to buy them tells you everything that you need to know. This stuff really isn’t difficult to understand.
Well the Ad isn’t technically dishonest, and an air source heat pump will ‘transform’ how you ‘heat’ your home whilst massively increasing your electrickery bill during Winter.
A bore hole ground source heat pump will work, but you’re talking an initial outlay of around 25-30K.
Best lay off messages coming from the Telling Bone.
’tis the very conjuration of evil spirits.
I live in New Zealand where a lot of people (including me) heat their houses with heat pumps. They work ,up to a point.Where I am in the bottom half of the South Island, it never gets very cold (except in the Central parts). What they do there I have no idea.
Although the pumps can cope with temperatures down to zero, they are struggling below that and the new ones are clearly marked with the warning. Although they can keep a constant temperature of 19/20 deg. it may still feel chilly as there is no radiant heat given out like a fire or radiator. A lot of the time they are used as a background and many houses use woodburning stoves, either pellets or logs. Supplying wood is a popular way to earn a living in winter and trailer loads of wood make ideal raffle prizes in charity raffles.
I was looking at new heat pumps the other day in one of our local Diy chains and they are retailing from 2000 to 4000 NZ dollars (about 1000/2000 pounds) with installation costs depending on position and complexity of fitting.
Would they be suitable to heat UK houses? probably not any of the older ones , they depend on a more open plan to spread the heat , and I think most would be struggling to cope with a real British winter.
Heat pumps suck. I’m an HVAC guy in Houston Fucking Texas, and I know whereof I speak. The real killer in climate control is scale. The whole of the Houston Medical Center as well as Rice University is served by a set of boilers and chillers. Rice students have made a cult of travelling the steam tunnels (careful, that one comes up in the Lion enclosure in the Zoo. No shit.) It is of course very capital-intensive, but it works like a charm. Doesn’t really scale down to the standard homeowner/renter level, which is a shame and a sin.
I ran a medical/professional building for a while. As engineer, I was expected to do a monthly check on every oh-so-lovely heat exchanger in the building. They had retrofit a perfectly good boiler and chill water system for 270 heat pumps, plenum mounted, and an hour to do the function check. I had to draw (personally, by hand) a full set of blueprints for the whole building. Not to mention shit like ‘The breakroom’s cold, do something about it!’ I’ll just move your 20 cup Bunn coffee maker from its spot RIGHT UNDER THE THERMOSTAT.
I went to look into heat pump. Found that all the named providers under the gov. Scheme wont provide as they never get paid and are owed many thousands. So don’t bother.