John Denham and Islam

September 13, 2009 Longrider Civil Liberties, General News, General Rants, misanthropy, Political, The Secular World 14

I realise that Letters from a Tory and Leg Iron have covered this one already. However, it does deserve further comment, if for no other reason than to make the point that objecting to the islamification of Europe is not some sort of wacky extreme right wing thing; it is a perfectly normal reaction to an alien political system that would wipe out the freedoms we hold dear (those not already emasculated by New Labour) and would enslave us in dhimmitude if it ever gets its way.

Let’s be clear, here, the group calling itself The English Defence League and Stop the Islamification of Europe are not a “far right” groups. They are neither right wing, left wing nor chicken wing. Indeed, these days, politicians and senior police officers tend to dub anyone who dares to disagree with the multiculti dogma of New Labour and their fellow travellers as racist and far right, when the reality is that they are no more than ordinary people who have had enough of the pandering to Muslims. It really is time we stopped pandering to Muslims. Sure, if people wish to come here, integrate with our society and obey the laws of the land, then fine, they should be welcome, whatever their religious beliefs. However, if their aim is to subject the rest of us to Sharia, then they can take a hike, frankly. I will never acquiesce to dhimmitude even if our craven leaders are prepared to do so.

“I think the English Defence League and other organisations are not actually large numbers of people,” Denham said. “They clearly though have among them people who know exactly what they’re doing. If you look at the types of demonstrations they’ve organised … it looks pretty clear that it’s a tactic designed to provoke and get a response, and hopefully create violence.”

No. They merely engaged in their right to protest. The violence was entirely unnecessary and as Denham coyly refrains from observing, was conducted by Asian youths. Ah, but, Asian youths are members of the “oppressed” and white folks who object to an alien religious and political system that is an anathema to secular government and liberty are nasty “far right” oppressors. Therefore, it is the protesters who are to blame, not those who actually kicked off the violence.

He pointed to historical “parallels” with Mosley’s events. “You could go back to the 1930s if you wanted to – Cable Street and all of those types of things. The tactic of trying to provoke a response in the hope of causing wider violence and mayhem is long established on the far-right and among extremist groups.”

That’s pure bollocks, frankly. There is no parallel – beyond Denham’s fevered imagination.

And, of course the term “Islamophobia” is liberally bandied about whenever anyone dares to suggest that islamification is something to be feared. A phobia is an irrational fear. A fear of fundamentalist Islam in all its evil is hardly irrational. Indeed, it is perfectly rational. The dislike of religious law with its corrupt and incompetent hatred of women and non-believers is reasonable and logical. If you want to call it “Islamophobia” by all means do. But like many in the UK and Europe, I remain adamantly opposed to the spread of this political system with its brutal medieval misogyny and if that makes me an Islamophobe, then I can live with it. Bear in mind, though, that I will treat it with the contempt it deserves and as nothing more than an attempt to stifle dissenting voices, much as Denham’s poppycock is.

Islam was driven from Europe by the Spanish in the 11th Century. Frankly, they had it right.

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  2. Hear, hear, Longrider. The threat from Islam (not just ‘Islamists’) to our traditional freedoms and democratic way of life is far graver and more immediate than most people realise. This country resembles someone sleepwalking over a cliff. I was a child in the 1930s, and remember all too well the many earnest people who assured us that the Germans were peace loving, the Nazis were good chaps, and Hitler should be supported as a bulwark against Communism. Islam is totalitarianism with knobs on, coated with a sugary veneer of religious piety. I have just been on holiday with English friends who left the UK ten years ago. They simply do not understand what is happening here, and inevitably accused me of bigotry and racism when I attempted to tell them. They sneered that a minority already numbering about 3 million, and multiplying rapidly, poses no threat to the great majority. But it only takes 5 per cent. plus to create the conditions for mayhem, riot and worse. Read the blogs from other European countries such as Sweden about what goes on in Malmo, for instance. And as a gay man and lifelong fighter for gay rights, I am very very afraid – see:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/13/iraq-gays-murdered-militias

    This will be happening here before long unless there is a determined effort to prevent it.

  3. Criticising Islam obviously doesn’t make someone a racist, and anyone who says it does is an idiot.

    However, the EDL *actually are* a nasty bunch of racist thugs, who attack Asians and Asian-owned businesses, and chant that the Pakis should go home. Not that Islamist fundamentalists should convert to moderate forms of religion, or that [whoever] shouldn’t impose Sharia law on us [*], but that people of Pakistani origin should go home. That’s bigoted blackshirtery, not anti-fundamentalist rationalism.

    [*] not quite sure who’s supposed to be imposing Sharia law on us, unless this is about recognising Sharia arbitration in civil cases with both parties’ advance consent. For that one, as with gay marriage, I don’t understand why anyone non-bigoted would have a problem with *other people choosing to do it*…
    .-= My last blog ..As usual, David Mitchell is spot on =-.

  4. Criticising Islam obviously doesn’t make someone a racist, and anyone who says it does is an idiot.

    Unfortunately, John, they do just that. It is a useful means of shutting down dissent.

    As I understand it, the EDL’s protests were by the book – although if you have evidence to the contrary, then please share. The usual chant that they are “far right” is again, the usual shutting down debate tactic.

    not quite sure who’s supposed to be imposing Sharia law on us,

    Well, Anjem Choudary for one…

    Actually, despite my usual live and let live philosophy regarding how people live their lives, I do have grave concerns about Sharia courts. That reserve comes from the realisation that women will feel compelled to abide by their rulings even if those judgements go against their will or better judgement. If Islam genuinely treated women as equals to men, then I would be less concerned.

  10. Ah, me, I can see that /this/ is no time to discourse on the wider interior vistas of Sufism 😉

  11. I have no problem with anyone practising whatever belief system they want. Indeed, I would vigorously defend their right to do so. What I object to is that element of Islamic thought that wishes to convert by any means those of us who do not believe or failing that, to subjugate us as dhimmis.

    I also object to demands that I should respect their beliefs. I respect anyone’s right to believe whatever they wish, I am under no obligation to respect the belief itself.

    I don’t know how it’s panning out in the States, but in the UK, there is a craven attitude exhibited on the part of politicians and law enforcement that means anything goes for Muslims protesting against the west, but reciprocal protests against Islam are deemed to be “far right” and vilified accordingly. There are some nasty double standards being exercised here and I for one, don’t like it.

  13. The Reconquista finally ended in 1492, not the 11th century, though it could effectively be said to be over by the middle of the 13th.

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