Apparently, there is an anti-Tory majority in Britain.
Traditionally, first-past-the-post has suited both Labour and the Conservatives. In 2005, Tony Blair won an overall majority of 67 with just 35 per cent of the vote. But Labour’s defeats in 2010 and 2015 have produced stirrings in favour of PR as some of its MPs wonder whether it can win power under its own steam in the foreseeable future.
Ah, yes, another “we lost” so let’s change the voting system whinges. They had that chance when they were in power for thirteen years. They chose to keep FPTP. So suck it up.
Yeah, sure, you can argue that a majority in the country are anti-Tory, but likewise, a majority are anti-Labour, Anti-LibDem, Anti Green… God, I could play this all day. What you mean is that Labour has lurched towards the political wilderness, making itself unelectable. Given this, you still want power, so gerrymandering the electoral system is the way forward, eh?
Fuck off. You lost. Get over it.
Frankly, given the extreme leftist agenda of the current shadow cabinet, the further these aresholes are from power, the better. The thought of them sneaking into power via PR and a coalition of the evil, just doesn’t bear thinking about. No, I don’t much like the Tories either – so include me in that majority, but given the choice between them and the dire alternative, it’s them.
I suppose it depends on how you define Tory. I consider the current government to be fairly left wing. Where are their responsible financial policies? When are they going to set about reducing the size and scope of the state? What are they doing constantly interfering in people’s lives by telling them what they should or shouldn’t eat or drink? sugar tax FFS. I keep looking at the atrocious state of the roads and thinking, this country is starting to resemble some backward socialist shit hole.
But there was an even bigger anti Labour vote wasn’t there? The argument is so stupid that anyone seriously making it should just be mocked with the full power of the internet.
It’s such a dumb argument that it could not even spell the word “dumb”. With a dictionary. And a google.
Well, quite. Moronic in the extreme.
There is a sizeable portion of the British electorate who haven’t a clue about politics, but who vote for tribal/family brainwashing reasons:- “I always vote Labour ‘cos it’s for the working man, innit?” and “I vote Tory because they support enterprise and initiative”. Some 80 or 90 years ago, there might have been a modicum of truth in such views, but it is now so far from reality, that what remains is just a knee-jerk pavlovian reaction to a perceived aspect that just ain’t there. These ‘unthinking blocs’ unfortunately form the greater part of our electorate: we all know of constituencies in which a baboon with the appropriate rosette would be returned – look at the Palace of Westminster for proof of this.
Of the remainder of the electorate, there is a small sector who will vote for the message/promises given out in the campaigns, but the majority of ‘non-fixed’ voters will use their vote to vote against a candidate rather than to endorse one with whom they are in accord.
Regarding today’s results, claiming that 54% of a 21% turnout is a ringing endorsement is beyond belief. Never do they ask themselves why the turnout is as low as 18%-25%.
Occasionally. And the answer floated is usually to compel people to vote rather than look at the problem at source. That would require some serious navel gazing…
Nah, they know why the turnout is low, and the people in power will do whatever they can to stay in power (even if they only get into power every other decade)