At the Guardian, where else?
Tim Farron thinks we need a general election…
Just over a year after the last general election, the Conservatives have plunged the UK into chaos with David Cameron gambled with the country on Brexit, and now a Tory leadership election has turned into a coronation.
It is simply inconceivable that Theresa May should be crowned prime ministerwithout even having won an election in her own party, let alone the country. I believe there must be a general election. I thought it when Gordon Brown became prime minister and I think it now.
Farron is an elected MP. He, of all people should grasp the concept of a parliamentary democracy. We do not elect prime ministers, we elect governments – and, as we did in 2005, last year we elected a governing party. That the party has changed its leader matters not a jot. May has a mandate to govern, the one her party was given in May 2015. That is the end of the matter. Farron is an idiot.
Britain needs a strong, united and effective opposition and I believe the Liberal Democrats can provide it.
With all eight MPs? really?
However, we also get some post Brexit fascism.
The decision to leave the EU was won by a section of the population that was effectively disqualified by its declining competence
Jeebus, that’s a vile comment right there. How dare this nasty little rag and its writers lump a whole generation into such a sweeping and incompetent statement.
Our EU postmortem has been going on for weeks, at the cafe, after bingo, in the common room. We’ve been in the firing line from the moment they published the age breakdown of votes, which showed the leave campaign won because we crumblies voted to quit. Since then, the media has been in our face and our grandchildren on our conscience.
Oh, my gawd, here we go again… A vote was held and you lost, get the fuck over it already…
They refuse to fess up that it was down to us, and with every passing week “it” becomes less and less acceptable.
So, er what part of a secret ballot does this cretin not understand? And so what if they don’t “fess up”? As for what is acceptable or not, what is really, really unacceptable is the ongoing Guardian-led demonisation of older people, who, with greater experience of life, chose a path not deemed acceptable by the right-on lefty Islington mob. Go fuck yourselves.
it goes with the grey territory, so we provide some of the anecdotes that get blown up into full-scale xenophobia by the Daily Malaise.
There’s no such thing as xenophobia – it’s another artificial construct used by the left to demonise anyone who dares to comment negatively about uncontrolled immigration. Again, go fuck yourselves.
It was genuinely difficult for my generation to separate the ideological wheat from the rhetorical chaff. We are gullible.
Speak for yourself and yourself alone. You are a gullible cretin. The rest of us were perfectly able to sort the wheat from the chaff and make a decision. Refrain from using your own inadequacies as a yardstick for the rest of us.
So, yet again, the Guardianista seem to think that the grey vote is, somehow, of less value than the young vote – despite older people being endowed with greater experience of life. However, Dakers is demonstration, that in some cases, people remain idiots no matter what their life experience. Also, the man is a downright nasty little fascist. But, then, this is the la-la land of the Guardianista. Always wrong all the time about everything…
During the build up to the referendum and during the aftermath, I have become more convinced than ever that democracy was the biggest issue at stake. On that issue there is only one correct answer. Despite its obvious flaws, democracy is our only protection against tyranny and as such is non negotiable. History teaches us that, whenever a government manages to rid itself of the inconvenience of having to regularly seek the approval of the governed, a great deal of unpleasantness becomes the inevitable result. It comes as no surprise that those who would meekly hand over their democratic birthright to the EU autocracy, are the same people who are trying to justify the overturning of a referendum result that didn’t turn out to their liking.
“The person that triggers Article 50, which leads us out of Europe, has to have a clear direction from the country,..”
Which part of the referendum question did dim Tim not understand?
The bit where we voted “leave the EU”.
I do believe Mr. Farron may have forgotten that business of Brown succeeding Blair. With that it never went as far as a Labour MP vote. It was a straight succession – and none too amicable either.
With Ms. May there was never any question of her ducking from a vote by party members. Ms. Leadsom chose to pull out, partly because she was way over her head – and had the good sense to realise that. (Something the aspirational wannabe’s of the Labour Party seem to lack).
With respect to a general election I’m afraid that Mr. Farron has overlooked, or possibly chosen to ignore, the simple fact that forcing one is never viewed favourably by the electorate.
I don’t want to take time out to vote simply to satisfy demands by a plan z head of the Liberal Party. He’s not there by competence, rather by their paucity of choice.
I’ve watched the people on Sky News regurgitate the same mantra since Mr. Cameron tendered his resignation. Perhaps Farron feels they represent “the people”. Sky news only represents big business and profits generated by banal adverts, with the sanctimonious CRUK crap about people undergoing chemo in isolation (reality is very, very different).
Nevertheless I feel that should another General Election be called it would wipe the Liberals off the political landscape and – at this moment – probably result in a surge for UKIP.
I’d rather like that, but I’m damned if I’ll do it just because of some peckerhead.
Please tell me that piece by Dakers was written as irony.
Callaghan took over from Wilson without a general election, and stayed in power by means of a stitch up with the Liberals (the Lib-Lab pact), Major from Thatcher also without a general election and then Brown from Blair. All this before the fixed term Parliaments act.
Wonder if Farron would hold that opinion if the LibDems were in coalition and he’d just been elected leader of the LibDems. Reckon not.
Some politicians say there is a precedent for calling an election after a new PM is elected by their party. Alec Douglas-Home, Jim Callaghan, John Major and Gordon Brown might just disagree with that view?
As far as I can the se, the precedent is NOT to do so
Sorry to be OT yet again but at OOL there is a comment under the post entitled “The snuffing out of free speech and the threat of violence” purporting to be from Longrider. The language and lack of proper punctuation suggest that it is not genuine.
Yeah, Dickie Doubleday is up to his tricks again. I’ve let them know.
It just goes to show that all that Lefty ‘equality’ stuff is but straw in the wind when they get thwarted in what they want. Then its ‘old people stole my future!’, no worrying about age discrimination there.
The Left are utter shites, they have no shame, not a shred of moral integrity whatsoever, its pure narcissism and lust for power. They will say or do anything in order to get what they want.
I read yesterday ,that there have been 22 prime ministers since 1900,13 of whom became so without winning a general election.
So Farron can stick his request up his arse,where the rest of his ignominious ,little party should reside. Dickhead.
Farron, Lammy and all the whiners need a good slapping. Look, Morons, you lost the referendum. No, we do not need a new vote on any government deal reached with the EU for leaving said EU, you left wing nutters.