Clearly doesn’t apply to Netflix.
Netflix has removed Kevin Spacey from the cover photo of House of Cards on the heels of news that the company was cutting all ties to the actor.
Okaaay. At the moment, Spacey is subject to allegations of impropriety. Yup, that’s right allegations. Allegations are not facts. They are not proof beyond reasonable doubt and those allegations have not been investigated – they have been taken at face value and Spacey has been tried, convicted and condemned on the basis of those allegations. What the flying fuck happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Salem, all over again.
Ask that nice MP for Dover, maybe he can ask PMT.May next time he…oh…hang on…
get up to speed. Due process and justice have been pushed aside for a long time now.
As far as the netflix bit goes their gaff their rules as you like to say.
Their gaff, their rules is an irrelevance here. Anyone accused should have the expectation of the presumption of innocence until the allegations are proven. If they are false, the organisation is leaving itself open to legal action for damages and rightly so.
“Their gaff, their rules” is exactly the point here. Mr Spacey does not have a right to his position as an actor; he is an ‘at will’ employee in an industry dependent on public good-will. He is entitled to due process before the state moves to deprive him of his liberty, should it come to that
No, sorry, it doesn’t. I never said he has any rights to to be engaged by them. However he does have a right to the presumption of innocence. In dismissing him before any investigation they have presumed guilt. This is trial by media. The appropriate response would be suspension pending the outcome of any inquiries. That is what due process is.
As I said this has nothing to do with my gaff my rules. This is about what they should do, not what they can do.
I guess we will have to “agree to disagree” – but I do have a tough time reconciling this position to your comments on the “Yes, it is Discrimination” thread of Nov 10. Spacey choose to act in a way that opened him up to charges of abuse; he made a choice, as you say.
There’s nothing to agree to disagree about. If you cannot see the difference between what someone can do on their own property and the right thing to do regardless of it being their property, then there’s nothing much to say. My position is consistent because these are two different things.
You have proof of this, then?
Will expunging Spacey from Netflix do anything positive? Stable doors and horses come to mind.
Obviously Netflix thinks it will make a difference. Avoid a boycott from the SJW crowd at the least, I should think.
Quite possibly they will. However, my point remains, they have chosen to ignore due process. “My gaff, my rules” is an irrelevance here, it is relevant there. That person has not been hired as his choice of inking demonstrates a lack of judgement. The difference between that case and the Spacey one couldn’t be more stark. Spacey is subject to allegations – not proof, not facts but allegations – whereas this interviewee showed lack of judgement to the interviewing panel and they made a rational decision not to hire. Netflix should have made the decision to suspend pending the outcome of investigations before making a final decision, in which case, I would have said nothing.