Roy Hattersley, so what do we expect?
Brexit is a flop, and the voters know it. So why can’t Labour call for a closer bond with Europe?
This is one of those articles where you don’t need to go beyond the headline as it is based on an assumption with no substance. How does Hattersley know this? He doesn’t. He is assuming and on the basis of this assumption, he is urging Labour to do what over fifty percent of the electorate voted against. Also, bear in mind that a significant number of those who didn’t have now changed their minds because they accept the democratic outcome.
As for is being a flop – this is an oft repeated refrain – along with the one about leavers being gullible, mislead, foolish, xenophobic and so on. None of which bears scrutiny.
When I cast my vote, I did so because I despise the authoritarian bureaucracy at the heart of the European project. I did so knowing full well that they would behave badly if they lost (and I wasn’t wrong) and that there would be a period of disruption, exacerbated by angry remainers in the establishment (I wasn’t wrong there, either). We’ve been joined at the hip with this organisation for forty years. Disentangling ourselves was always going to be a long game. Come back in ten years and we can decide whether it has been a flop. Until then, wait and see.
The result of the referendum cannot be ignored, but a bespoke deal with the EU has to be pursued if we are to avoid a shrinking economy
Let’s just ignore the devastation caused by lockdowns and a so-called Conservative chancellor who went full on socialist, pissing our money up the wall for two years, while businesses were prevented from trading. No, it’s Brexit. Fucking moron. As for doing a deal, well that is always an option. It’s just that we get to negotiate properly now, which was the point.
As you say, it’s not Brexit that is the issue, it’s the usual sheer incompetence of the bureaucracy. There are no excuses for example for the crazy delays, and hence massive costs imposed on the country as a whole, created by the utter disgrace called the border farce.
We’ll never get a good deal while hats like Twattersley let the EU think there’s a chance the thing can be reversed.
Yeah it’s a timely reminder of what a fugging disaster Hattersley was when they were stupid enough to give him an office in the 1970s, because :
1) There is no evidence that Brexit “has flopped”
2) There is no evidence that “the voters know it”, indeed if the last election is anything to go by the total opposite is true
3) Hatters then trots out the aging canard that “a deal must be done” but refuses to specify what form that would take, given that the EU’s red lines are relinquishing control of our borders, acceptance of the Euro, and subservience to the ECHR
As usual it’s just a load of hot air from another failed Labour politician
Hattersley – a total windbag and failure at everything he touched.
I would like some rejoiniac to provide the clear evidence that toytown austria-hungary has benefited from being relived of the dead weight that is this backward looking midden.
Separate from it we would be struggling to find enough air to breathe as I recall.
Hattersley! Must say I am surprised to hear that this gurning half wit is still alive.
I knew precisely what I was voting to leave thank you very much!
Who? Hattersley? Thought he was dead…
Only the good die young…
Drowned in a pool of his own spit?
Seriously though folks, I thought he was dead too.
Now, I picture him as Jabba the Hutt.
The Guardian blamed the recent hold ups at Dover on Brexit, it turns out that the French customs do the passport checks at Dover which makes sense, what wasn’t mentione was the fact that only four of the twelve booths were in operation, This I believe to be a deliberate attempt to cause trouble to people who are trying to make the most of hard earned money to give their families a decent holiday. Pack of bastards.
And the other thing that they never mention and which scares me the most is that for sure if we were ever to join the EU again (God forbid) adopting the euro would be the main condition. Then we’d be in a world of hurt.
“Let’s just ignore the devastation caused by lockdowns and a so-called Conservative chancellor who went full on socialist, pissing our money up the wall for two years, while businesses were prevented from trading.”
Let’s ignore too, that the EU, in thrall to the USA has shot itself in both feet with the sanctions on Russian oil and gas, and turned half the planet against them. Let’s ignore the attempted land grab in Holland under the guise of Climate Change and how they’ve managed to bring Germany and Italy to their knees with nonsense. And having lost badly in Ukraine, they now set their sights on meddling in Taiwan. With their masters in the USA, that is.
I remember Hattersley from years ago. Couldn’t find his own arse with both hands and a map and gobbed all over whoever was brave enough to speak to him. Useless tosser.
Sometimes you can just know that you are right based on who it is that is telling you that you are wrong. Can anyone name a single remainer who can give a serious justification for their position?
I am an avid-Brexiteer but the fix was in from the minute we voted to leave. I predict we will rejoin in under five years because that’s what the twitterati want. We will have to beg to go back and a traitorous government of either side will do just that.
The Conservatives are just about to elect a Remainer after shafting a Brexiteer, who would have predicted that?
The last time England won a major international football tournament was in 1966, a short time before we joined the EU. We never won anything after that. . . .
Until tonight, when the England women won the Euro Cup – only a short time after we’d left the EU. Spooky that.
The Brexit Dividend’s coming home.
There are a few conviction remainers who believe that a European Empire would be a great thing – often because they hate their own country.
But there are also politicians and celebrities (often ‘elder statesmen’and has beens) who are desperate to re-establish their glory years by jumping on any passing bandwagon. Unfortunately there is often no sensible bandwagon so they leap on the daft one.