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  1. There already is a system to ensure that e-cigs contain what they claim to contain – trading standards. There is no need to have anything else.

    The case of the horse meat being sold as beef is a perfect example of why we don’t need more draconian regulations. Not even trading standards is required. All that is needed is the breakdown of a company’s brand and image. No company wants that except criminal ones and they will avoid regulations anyway. Companies survive on trust and when that’s broken, they break. So they will always ensure that they keep it as long as possible.

  2. The arrogance or Nathenson knows no bounds. Despite trading standards, her sort never even think that it might be none their business. That is why it is reasonable to call them psychopaths.

  3. Any update for us on Mrs L and her E-cig transition ? We switched around the same time and I’m curious as to how she’s getting on with it. šŸ™‚

    • Generally okay. She hasn’t given up the Old Holborn, though. On the flight to Malta, the e-cig was used with Ryan Air’s blessing although she found it gave her slight airsickness. This seems to be because it gives a stronger hit than the roll-ups.

      • Hmmm yeah, I know where she’s coming from. Not a substitute for the real thing, are they. I think half the problem is you put a ciggy out when it’s burnt away but these things there’s no end to it so you puff it more and make yourself sick.

        After decades of smoking menthol I didn’t really notice the mint anymore but proper ciggies were too rough and I found the E-lite menthol cartridges too fake in taste. The strength of pull/hit was just too erratic and since they overestimate the equivalent of ciggies per cartridge it really wasn’t much cheaper either.

        After a week nearing jaw dislocation and loosening teeth sucking so hard on them trying to recreate the ciggy experience I’d had enough and switched to the Ego-T atomiser system and e-juice. After experimenting a bit between menthol and caramel type flavours I’ve settled on simply Toffee with the tiniest splash of menthol and both at 16mg nicotine. 10-12 hits of consistent strength and hit… and looooads of vapour…you get that “I’ve had enough now” feeling and put it down. Previously a 20-30 a dayer on ciggies and rapidly becoming impoverished it now works out to cost me (roughly) just under a quid a day. HUGE saving.

        I guess it just depends what you want out of it but as a work-around smoking bans they’re great and TPB don’t really give a shit if they’re “healthy” or not.

        It only ever boils down to showing us who’s boss so we’ll just have to keep showing them šŸ™„

  4. Anyone walking into a busy pub in Manchester may well be confronted with a rather shocking sight.

    Blimey, some people are easily shocked. I appear to have fallen down a hole and come up a world where people swoon if they see a piano leg.

    Are BBC reporters such arses that they wander round war zones failing to notice the human limbs scattered all over and then faint if a soldier walks by with a electro-fag on?

    • Hah yes ! I noted the abuse of language in that line too and it made me laugh out loud.

      IF it were to be believed then it’s time to swap our national flower for a pansy. šŸ˜†

    • I was quite shocked, although only as they all seemed to be using cheap, tatty, cigarette lookalike e-cigs rather than anything half decent. Go into most of the pubs round here and the vapers are using a far higher quality product and there’s always some variety, rather than everyone using the exact same bit of kit.
      Not that I’m suggesting it was set up for the cameras you understand šŸ˜‰

      • Not that Iā€™m suggesting it was set up for the cameras you understand šŸ˜‰

        Ok I will then šŸ˜‰ I found it highly suspicious when a fella actually flicked his.

        With the weight of the battery making them bottom-heavy they’re far too awkward to hold like a real ciggy and you’d break your thumb trying to flick them. You might do it once or twice out of pure habit but the pain would soon recondition you.

        I reckon a group of smokers were asked to try them and they filmed the first couple of puffs. šŸ˜‰

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