I’m A Celebrity 2022 viewers saw a tearful Matt Hancock seek “forgiveness” from the public, as he appeared to confirm this as his main aim for doing the show on Friday.
You snivelling little turd. You deliberately ignored scientists who were occupational experts in favour of charlatans and gaslighters. You ridiculed anyone who dared to object to your dogma from the sanctity of parliament. Your behaviour was evil, unforgiveable and you are a nauseating example of the professional politician who will do anything for your own selfish ends, regardless of those you hurt along the way. So, no, you don’t get any forgiveness from these quarters and deserve none. In fact, if I had my way, you would be prosecuted for what you did and wouldn’t ever see the light of day from your solitary confinement for the rest of your miserable, worthless life, you pathetic jackanape.
Can’t disagree with any of that, none of the army of petty dictators who crawled out of the woodwork over the last 3 years should ever be forgiven or forgotten.
Nor excusing those who went along with the farce for financial gain.
Scum
Unfortunately I think this has little to do with covid. Speaking to a random selection of friends and family they all focussed on forgiveness for the affair, with no mention of what this abomination did to the country.
Just another example I suppose of how most people have been indoctrination to the covid narrative, and how quickly the massive assault on basic freedoms is being forgotten.
I’m increasingly of the opinion that these people deserve everything that’s coming to them; I just wish there was a way for the rest of us to escape the insanity.
’I’m increasingly of the opinion that these people deserve everything that’s coming to them…’
In spades.
Hopefully. Not just the disgusting authoritarian politicians but also the police who gleefully turned into covid thugs and also the petty grasses who dobbed people in for not wearing the useless masks. I want to see some comeuppance also for the NHS staff who danced while people died and who died not from covid (although many did die from this disease) but from conditions that might have been curable had the NHS done it’s bloody job and seen the patients who had paid, often over an entire lifetime, for their comprehensive healthcare.
I say this not as some anti-covid radical but as someone who could see value in a very short term period of social restriction in order to get a breathing space and someone who understands the very long term (as from mid 70’s onwards) work that led to mRNA vaccines. The state, the NHS and the supine media all screwed up over covid in much of the Western world (with the notable exception of places like Florida) and I’ll be damned if I will go along with any sort of amnesty for these bastards.
So much damage has been done over the covid period and although covid did some of the damage the vast majority of the damage has been done by the response to covid.
“The state, the NHS and the supine media all screwed up over covid”
This is the point that I have issue with. They didn’t screw up at all, because they were already aware, and everything went according to their plan. Why else, for example, would SPI-B (the ‘nudge’ unit consisting of behavioural psychologists) be working within SAGE? As far as Hancock is concerned, he didn’t earn the nickname Midazolam Matt for nothing. While everybody was locked in their homes, he was murdering their loved ones in care homes by feeding them Midazolam and Morphene for breakfast. DNR orders were given without consent or knowledge of patient or their family and the Liverpool Care Pathway was reinstated but not under any name.
Not to mention things such as the lack of informed consent when the jabs came along – which is essentially a violation of the Nuremberg Code, or the corruption of the MHRA and politicians in approving the jabs. Awarding £10 million contracts for PPE to companies with no assets or employees but who’s directors were related to politicians. The list goes on, without counting those that you mention, that died as a consequence of all this. They knew, and the media were paid to spin their narrative.
There was I’m afraid a massive screw up. We already had a pandemic plan formulated a few years before covid and based around a known infectious respiratory disease, influenza. The problem as I see it came along when SarsCovII emerged and the carefully debated pandemic plan was thrown out of the window in panic by Johnson and his advisors. The key incident that I look back on and see as the point when the panic set in and plans were abandoned was the Italian situation. We should expect those who govern us to deal with emergencies with some degree of calmness but they didn’t they behaved like headless chickens and the results as we can see are bloody awful.
The NHS which Hancock was ultimately in charge of behaved in its normal uncaring and useless way by discharging elderly patients suffering from covid into care homes thus spreading the disease ever further. This coupled with the known issue of care workers rarely being attached only to one home but working at many others, turned an infection control problem into a disaster.
I’ve little doubt that the NHS treated elderly people as scandalously badly as they always do whether it is a pandemic situation or not and the non consensual DNR notices were part of that. There have been reports from anti Euthanasia campaigners that sedatives were misused during the pandemic in care homes in order to keep residents quiet and this is something that does need to be stopped for when the next pandemic arrives (the 20th century saw three big influenza pandemics in 1918/1950’s and the 1960’s) which it most surely will.
I’m not sure whether the Nuremberg Code nor the updated Helsinki Declaration covers general medical treatment as both of these documents are specifically concerned with research rather than medicines that have been given either emergency or full approval by a nation’s medical regulator. All I know is that when I went for my first and second covid jabs the medic in charge was assiduous about the need for me to personally consent to the jab. For the record although I had jabs one and two I’ve refused others as I have grave doubts about efficacy and more has come out about how it fails to give sterilisation protection against infection. I most certainly disagree with untargetted mass covid vaccination as it was obvious pretty early on that there was an identifiable cohort who were more vulnerable to covid and therefore more suitable for vaccination.
The subject of the nudge types in positions of authority is interesting and has a parallel with Mass Observation during WWII. The nudge types were used i a similar way to MO in WWII as a way of influencing public opinion. I suspect that the nudge types were behind much of the unnecessary and frankly Stalinesque cheerleading about the NHS.
Where I fully agree with you is that there is murkiness with regards government contracts for things like PPE and for test equipment. Whilst I agree with people like Dominic Cummings that in an emergency the normal rules regarding procurement should be relaxed, it should not have been relaxed as much as it was.
I’ve just done some digging and found this interesting piece from the USA about informed consent for medical treatment which may be more pertinent to the debate than either the Nuremberg Code or the Declaration of Helsinki. https://www.patientsafetyaction.org/resources/informed-consent/
The issue of informed consent goes into a bit of a grey area when it comes to mandated vaccinations as a person may accept a vaccination in order to keep or get a job or to travel which means that there is a element of coercion. About the only area where I can accept that vaccines should be mandated is the normal baby and childhood vaccines for kids going into nurseries tht have a remarkably good record for safety and efficacy. This is because there are many nurseries, such as the one my son attended, where not only are there children who may have had all their vaccines because of their age, but there also might be babies present who are not old enough to be vaccinated for certain illnesses and may therefore be vulnerable to diseases tht could be passed on by older unvaccinated children. BTW I’m a mid life parent and old enough to remember kids with irons on their legs because of polio. The memory of this plays a major part in why I am very much pro vaccination where vaccination can be justified and is necessary.
Thanks for the extra info, I wasn’t aware of any pre-planned strategy before the coof. There is a leaked zoom call between Hancock and a Dr Evans where they are planning out Midazolam and Morphene and syringe drivers, and just after that, Whitty procured a 2 year supply which was depleted within 5 months. As you will probably be aware, both these drugs are sedatives which slow the breathing. However, if administered together they are lethal and not usually given without supervision. Hardly the thing to give someone who already has breathing difficulties. I’m not a medical professional so can only say what I see and state conclusions that I have come to. I have discussed all this with my daughter who is a ward sister and has been able to supply me with a few good nuggets of information. Both of us believe that Hancock and his fellow travelers were malicious. I guess that if you are the suspicious kind as I am, you could add the factor of the state of the NHS and cost of state pensions in the years before the pandemic, and how much could be saved by offing a few pensioners in care homes. The orders for DNR and dosage guidelines came directly from government to the care homes.
I mentioned the Nuremberg Code because this has provision for informed consent and I don’t know of any other international law. However, I’ve just realised that it may only apply to prisoners of war, the sections that cover medical experiments on humans. I do know that the section in question bans coercion also. I agree with you about mandates for children but believe that the final decision and responsibility should be left with the parents, so I’m undecided on that, but shows that informed consent is still required.
As a lot of people say, I am by no means an anti vaxxer. I’ve had them myself and my children had all of theirs too. But I saw a difference with the mRNA shots in that they were rushed out without any information and very little testing (admitted by Albert Bourla, CEO of Pfizer). This meant, to me, that we the public were the test subjects and I refused. But people in general will still insist that we ‘refuseniks’ are no different than those who hate all vaccines. I remember polio too, my best friend in infants school wore leg calipers because of it.
The SPI-B element in SAGE were in charge of all propaganda. They paid TV companies huge advertising revenues for running the Whitty ads and also the papers and social media were bought on board the same way (that’s more or less when the cancel culture started in earnest). Among these I recognised a few old faces (PHE, ASH-UK) from the days of the anti smoking campaigns, such as Linda Bauld.
Oh, yeah, there was. The WHO had a pandemic plan that our government was going to implement. They panicked and went full on insanity in response to Italy, but Italy has a different societal structure with multigenerational households. The original plan would have worked here perfectly well, just as it did in Sweden. Unfortunately, we live in a time where politicians make policy on the back of headlines.
Hang them. Hang them all.
And remember his TV appearance, when he “appeared to cry” ha, it looked like to me, he wanted to laugh socks off.
I remember that too, He was actually pissing himself whilst trying to hide it. It was the paid shill who was interviewing him that passed it off as ’emotional’.
I think it is in the US where there have been calls for an amnesty for the people responsible for the Covid screw up. Of course many people are outraged, particularly those who were fired from their jobs for refusing to get jabbed. This does at least suggest that those responsible are starting to worry that their actions are going to come back and bite them on their arses.
Agree there. The guilty are looking for a way out. My view is sod their amnesty
I have a special glass that I’m going to drink from if and when the next MP stabbing occurs – not advocating anything naturally. I am also now rooting for Putin to do as much damage as possible, hopefully a nuclear strike.That would make my day.
I must admit that I was worried this worthless popinjay would manage to steal one of he top jobs in the Sunak coup, but it seems that even his own Parliamentary cohort are tired of his antics and just want him to phuq off and not come back.
Good riddance would be a swift defeat at the next election, but that is still a ways off.
As for all else written about him, seems true enough to me.
How bad do you have to be to be shunned by the parliamentary Conservative party?
All I can say about Hancock is; more slime. Drown the b@stard.
“if I had my way, you would be prosecuted for what you did”
If I had my way, Hancock, along with Whitty, Valance and Ferguson would all have a Ceausescu moment. They also cried and begged for mercy. Its the only fitting punishment.
Well, yes, but we ain’t allowed to do that. I’d like a multiperson gallows on parliament square where we can watch them kicking and struggling for breath – no long drop for those fuckers, they get to do the Marshall’s dance. But it’s just a fantasy.
Well, if they were prosecuted here, nothing is likely to come of it, they are too well protected. But there is a glimmer of hope in that Reiner Fuelmich is successful in getting them to the ICC. If found guilty there, they will hang. Hancock is on the list, and Bojo as well, among many others including the CEO’s of the big pharmaceutical companies that manufactured the jabs. It might end up being a nothing burger, who knows, but Fuelmich has a good history, he successfully prosecuted over the diesel scandal and bought down Deutsche Bank.
The Diesel Scandal wasn’t even a real scandal. The powers that be had made the rules on emissions so ridiculously stringent that the only way vehicles could pass was by removing all useable performance. Manufacturers were having the cars tested on a setting that allowed them to pass and then returning them to a useable setting to sell. The obvious solution would have been to reset the car of anyone who complained back to test mode and see how long they took to bring it back and ask for it to be put back as it was. At that point you say that you can do it but they have to sign a disclaimer and there will be a charge.
Longrider. re the UK pandemic plan. It was not even an off the shelf WHO plan that was abandoned. It was a plan put together at great cost and effort by UK civil servants and UK experts that focused specifically on how the UK would deal with an influenza pandemic. We threw that away because of panic. Maybe things would have been less bad and we would be seeing less deaths due to Britons being unable to use the NHS for ‘normal’ reasons had this plan not been abandoned?