Labour has big plans for giving away free money if it wins the next election.
A future Labour government would double the amount of paid paternity leave available to new fathers from two to four weeks, Ed Miliband has announced.
The Labour leader has also pledged to increase statutory paternity pay by more than £120 a week to £260 a week, paid for by savings in tax credits.
And who will end up picking up the tab? Oh, yeah, me – and you. Because this money has to come from somewhere. And the infernally complex and unnecessary tax credits system should be scrapped and we all pay less tax.
One thing I am finding intensely irritating regarding tax is the language being used by the leftist media. They conflate avoidance with evasion and talk of “fair” tax. By this, they mean whatever they think should be paid. But, most of all, I object to the idea that we “owe” tax. We do not.We owe nothing. Tax is taken by force in the same way that criminal gangs take protection money. We pay it because we have no option. We do not owe the state anything. They are thieves and extortionists, who sponge off our labour. They take. we do not owe. We owe the state nothing. And, frankly, as far as services are concerned, many of those provided by the state would be better produced by a private provider.
‘And who will end up picking up the tab? Oh, yeah, me – and you.’
But the government can just borrow it. No-one ever has to pick up that tab, surely? The injection of money will stimulate the economy and pay itself off all on its own! It’s a theoretically proven money tree. Keynes told me.
Maybe Millipede has a slush fun with HSBC and it’s tax evasion schemes and he’s going to dip into his own pocket, or maybe they are going to FINALLY chase down all the serious avoiders who the tax office have known about for over 5 years and ignored.
After Camoron made the ex Head of HSBC a government minister and popped him into the house of lords.
If they clamped down on the high end avoiders maybe ordinary people wouldn’t need to be fleeced so royally, if it was you or me owed so much as £50.00 they would have us in court but you can owe millions and walk free. JOKE.
As for Labour and their off shore black list, how the phuck does plasticine Ed think he will enforce that when no one apart from him is signed up and in agreement. Pillock.
Pillock is putting it mildly. I am in total agreement with LR on this: it’s every person’s duty to pay exactly what the law demands, and no more.
If there is anything that allows anyone to reduce the amount stolen from them by the state, then it should be pursued with the utmost zeal.
If only we could starve these parasites of a) the oxygen of publicity, b) the oxygen of access to our hard-earned, and c) the oxygen in the air 🙂 things just might improve…
You are talking of avoiders not evaders, Kath, so by definition they are not doing anything illegal, simply ensuring that they only pay the legally required amount of tax and not excess tax due to ignorance of the law. There is no suggestion that HSBC Swiss has done anything illegal under Swiss law.
“We owe the state nothing”
Anyone who thinks they receive absolutely no benefit from the State is frankly either deluded or lacking in imagination.
Anyone who pays more into the state’s coffers than they receive in state benefits, as I do, receives no benefit from the state that they could not source elsewhere privately, if they actually wanted it.
Well to take just one example let’s talk about roads. There are many roads that could not be funded privately. There simply would not be sufficient traffic to recoup the cost of building them. So what is the solution? Don’t build the roads? Cut off the communities who rely on them?
People who argue that that they pay far more into the State than they get out of it invariably:
1. Underestimate what they get out of the state. It isn’t only direct benefits paid to you. There are substantial benefits that you may not even be aware of.
2. Are usually arguing from a position of temporary security. It is easy to presume that you could always afford to pay privately for anything the state could provide. Not so. To take health as just one example you would be one piece of ill luck away from being unable to cover your costs. There is a very good reason that medical issues are the number 1 cause of bankruptcy in the US. You may assume that your expensive medical insurance covers you. But all medical insurance companies employ teams of individuals whose job it is to find reasons to exclude you from claiming your rightful insurance. They’ll try to call it pre-existing, or find an error you made on a form. And then you’re in a world of trouble. Because the medical costs in a country where private medical insurance dominates are vastly overinflated. Meaning that you’re in trouble if you have to pay.
And quite apart from what they might to in order to get out of medical insurance you’ve paid for and to which you’re entitled, what are you going to do if you’re unfortunate enough to have a child with a pre-existing condition from birth? One which requires life long medical care. Good luck funding that yourself under those circumstances.
Is the state frequently too large, bloated and too bureaucratic? Yes. But the private sector has more than enough of its own problems to face too. Assuming that state = bad and private = good is overly simplistic and naive.
The idea that the state is unnecessary is an idea that really doesn’t gain traction with anyone but the crazy Ayn Rand accolytes. And for good reason. Theirs is fundamentally a philosphy born of selfishness.
These are not the same things Ben. Of course there are things that are provided by the state that I benefit from, but every one of these I have paid for several times over. So no, I do not owe the state anything.
Also, I neither want nor need much of what the state provides and in many cases I am actively opposed to it. Where it does provide things I might find useful, the private sector would make a better job. The state is wasteful, inefficient, poor quality and over-priced. And, yes, the little I have had from it, has been paid for multiple times over. I do not owe the state – as its master, the state owes me.
It will be all right. Ed Balls has a master-plan, don’t y’know? He’s going to borrow all we need to get us completely out of debt … or something.
From Bill somebody, I presume?
Not from me. My money is currently slinking out of the UK, never to return. I’ve paid my taxes and in the words of the late, great Eddie Waring in his days as host of ‘It’s a knockout’, “That’s all you’re getting….”/em
Seems like a phoney filler until they get some proper policy together. Shouldnt we be talking about the big corprations not paying a penney in tax because they donate to politcial parties?