Publish and be Damned

It’s been pretty obvious to anyone who has been paying attention that the tech giants of Silicon Valley have been playing fast and loose with the distinction between that of common carrier and of publisher for a while now.

They like to claim that they are a common carrier, yet gleefully ban, delete or shadow ban the voices of those they disapprove, while allowing similar comments from the approved (far left activists) list to continue. The double standards are blatant and obvious but no one has dared to take them on.

Now, however, it seems they might have jumped the shark by banning a story from the New York Post. Of course, in their trying to quell this story, the Internet did what it does best and thwarted their efforts and the story is doing the rounds as the Streisand effect does what it does best. Indeed, it is probably more widely circulated than it might have been and for all the wrong reasons if you are a Farcebook or Twatter executive

Now, pants around his ankles, Jack Dorsey does a feeble mea culpa.

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey admitted on Wednesday that the company did an “unacceptable” job of explaining why the platform started blocking users from sharing the link to a widely questioned and dubiously sourced New York Post story about Hunter Biden.

“Our communication around our actions on the @nypostarticle was not great. And blocking URL sharing via tweet or DM with zero context as to why we’re blocking: unacceptable,” Dorsey tweeted.

No, you got caught and having got caught you are trying to wriggle out of it. As for fact checking – this is a major news outlet and usually they are left alone. If the story is wrong, I’m sure that someone, somewhere, will do the relevant digging. To rely on Twatter or Farcebook to fact check is a bit like leaving the crocodiles in charge of the fish tank. Having fact checked their fact checkers in the past, I’ve discovered that they are unreliable. Indeed, I no longer trust Snopes.

What has happened here is that the NYP is not a lone blogger, Youtuber or citizen journalist posting an inconvenient fact or opinion that can easily be crushed – see Tommy Robinson, Sargon of Akkad et al. This time they have banned a major story that is of public interest in the USA given that it involves a presidential candidate, they also banned one of the outlet’s editors who tried to promote the story.

They haven’t so much crossed the line as driven a coach and four through it, leaving sludge filled cart tracks in their wake.

They can no longer claim to be neutral common carriers because no one will believe them. They are publishers and as publishers they must now be held to account for every story, every comment, every racist anti-white tweet that festers on their vile platforms. Now is the time to let the piranha lawyers out and feast on the rotting flesh of these creatures. Screw them to the wall and keep doing it until Dorsey and Zukerberg et al are bled dry. They brought this on themselves.

16 Comments

  1. If only, fucking evil the lot of them. Given how well Simon Dolan’s case went today, and the judge’s tacit approval of the BBC, can’t see it getting anywhere.

    We’re fucked.

  2. distinction between that of common carrier and of publisher

    Exactly, Royal Mail don’t edit or censor letters; BT don’t censor phone calls

    Yet Facebook, Twiiter etc claim to be “Town Square” (common carrier) and have testified this under oath

    Trump really should have gone after them full guns blazing in 2017 when the Google Execs “We can’t let this happen again” video leaked and all the Project Veritas disclosures broadcast

    @Wtf
    Thanks
    https://twitter.com/simondolan
    Courts happy to curtail Freedom: Brexit, Lockdowns etc But, exempts affects BLM, XR etc

    Video of the day

    JHB destroys Lib Dem Tim Farron’s support for more Lockdowns
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4f0Bj7RjUs

    Why listen to sage, when have their predictions ever been correct?
    Why not listen to Sweden? Their “pandemic” is over

    As Sir Desmond Swayne says “SAGE only consider stopping C-19, not wider health or economy” – spot on and what I said in March. Boris refuses to be leader and allows Hancock & SAGE to be PM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEVRDgQOY44

    • Yes, that’s my point. They gained a good reputation for debunking urban legends, but have spoiled that reputation with their fact checking politics.

  3. The story that the NY Post ran was fed to it by Rudi Giuliani. The provenence of the hard drive beneath the story is also highly questionable because the “evidence” was also provided by Giuliani, who has refused to allow the material to be independently verified.

    Now do you get it? It’s fake news. Even reading the NY Post article should raise massive red flags

    • John,
      Must try harder. Do you really believe Giuliani created 1,000s of fake Hunter Biden emails, photos, videos, documents? Maybe the computer shop guy asked Giuliani for help in getting the laptop to a journo.

      Fake or not, MSM won’t report and Google et al censoring – why is msm not reporting Hunter Biden emails in depth and they & public can decide?

      Fox gives report some airtime

      Networks will continue to ‘gloss over’ report on Hunter Biden – Zero Time On MSM
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3avtmi25l3M
      They aren’t just ignoring it, media is trying to censor and bury it

      ‘The Five’ react to the ‘media meltdown’ over Biden & Trump’s NBC town hall
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xS3x-84Ykw
      Why not? Apparently, Biden is not running for president. He said he’s running for Senate
      I haven’t seen Democrats this mad since their slaves were freed by Republicans

      FCC Chairman to move to ‘clarify’ rule that shields social media companies
      Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai says he plans to clarify Section 230 which is a rule that gives social media companies immunity following censorship of New York Post’s article
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW-cQ7nQZn4
      Absolutely. This a must..Get rid of their protections. They are publishers not a platform.

      Then there’s liar Steve Scully

    • Sky News Aus, are doing an incredible job. The lamestream is Not even touching Hunter Biden revelations.
      Every day it’s becoming harder for the tech Giants& MSM to hide their Left bias, it’s blatantly obvious

      1. A Must Watch: Unprecedented scandal’: Joe Biden reportedly linked to son’s dealings with China
      – The Bidens, Obama’s and the Clinton’s selling out America to China. The Democrats are all corrupt
      – Crazy that Americans and British have to watch Australian news to get the facts on America

      2
      Disgrace’: Twitter, Facebook censor Hunter Biden story
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5HfeElInSs
      The American and UK media is absolutely terrible. There’s no doubt they are running interference on behalf of the Biden campaign. US journalists have lost their sense of duty of reporting the truth to the people. They are no longer journalists but activists with press passes

      3
      NY Post to ‘release bombshell expose’ linking Hunter Biden to Chinese business deals
      The New York Post will tomorrow release even more bombshell evidence linking Hunter Biden to Chinese business dealings after they obtained leaked emails and photographs from the hard-drive of Hunter’s laptop
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIjaLmOTkEE
      All the criminals in the US Govt need to be taken down. It’s pretty bad when citizens of the USA need to watch news from Australia to get fair reporting

      4
      ‘Deny it, say Joe is innocent, but we’ve heard nothing’
      https://youtu.be/k11O5szYQOs?t=96

      5
      Left media turn every potential truth about Joe Biden into ‘misinformation’
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ris8uEjlz4M

    • Perhaps you could ask the FBI if its genuine, as they have the actual computer (or had, if they haven’t wiped it, like every other electronic device they get their hands on that might incriminate the Democrats and the Clintons in wrongdoing).

      And if its fake, why hasn’t either Biden declared it so? Perhaps because they know there’s evidence it is real and if they claim it isn’t they’ll immediately be shown to be blatant liars?

    • @John,
      Rudi Giuliani – so what? A Rep ex NY Mayor assists when FBI did nothing makes it all lies?

      Refused to allow the material to be independently verified? The FBI have the laptop, Giuliani, NY Post & shop owner have mirror image of HDD – all refusing?

      Pitifully weak denial of evidence

      As Jim says, if it’s lies why are the Biden’s and MSM not reporting and saying so?. Instead they censor and reuse to discuss
      Rather like the RoP child rape gangs in UK still being brushed under carpet – no news, never happened

      1
      Tucker on Fox
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzxcYhEv83c

      2
      Australia
      Left Channel leads with above: Facebook and Twitter accused over New York Post article on Biden and Ukraine
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9pfoXYFH_Q

      3
      NY Post has been completely transparent about the ‘provenance’ of Biden scandal story

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a-XGMzWlCE
      Why aren’t people talking about the fact that the FBI has been sitting on this info for almost a year?

      4
      ‘Biden family corruption’ story censored by tech giants shows they are not “neutral platforms”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Q6WCErKkQ
      When media censor any story, the accused are guilty

    • The NYP story is not the story here. Its content whether true or false is not the issue. Twitter claims that the materials were hacked and therefore contrary to its terms of use. Okay, fair enough, but that sensibility didn’t apply to the Panama Papers leak. They claim that it is against their terms to advocate violence, yet their blue check marks were able to vilify and advocate violence against a schoolboy for doing nothing more than smile. The story here is that while we have always known that the tech giants have a bias and behaved like publishers when it suits them, they aren’t hiding it anymore. They have crossed the Rubicon. They are publishers and people like Nick Sandmann need to be suing them for publishing libellous content. Their common carrier protection needs to be removed, because they are publishers, not common carriers. That is the story here.

      • Its content whether true or false is not the issue. Twitter claims that the materials were hacked and therefore contrary to its terms of use

        Except it wasn’t hacked. Hunter Biden gave laptop to computer shop for repair. They repaired. Hunter Biden refused to collect and pay bill. After 90 days laptop then property of computer shop.

        Computer shop did not hack their own computer – Twitter et al lying

        FBI after doing nothing for many months:
        FBI investigating whether Hunter’s alleged emails are linked to a foreign intel op
        “Seized” shop owner Gave it to FBI many months ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYcdM9pLI3E

        Fox have been very quite about this, other than Tucker. Fox worried Biden will win and building bridges?

        Foreign intel op? Whut? As with Hellary, China, Russia & Ukraine Gov’ts Want bought and paid for Biden to win. EU & UK too

        Let’s look around

        #HunterGate: The Censorship Hammer Drops Violations Of Rules: “Distribution of Hacked Materials”
        https://altcensored.com/watch?v=pGybOUE84ug
        Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/MYXs4ULfLL5o/

    • @John
      Lost your tongue?
      Over to “no worries” Aus where more USA going for full story

      1
      The ‘Russia hoax’ continues to be a ‘soft coup’ against President Trump
      “Bidens not denying”
      “Donald Trump doesn’t have to beat former vice president Joe Biden to win in November, he has to overcome the most “extraordinarily biased media campaign” faced by any politician”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYPG5kGcUzI

      2
      Emails reveal a ‘massive national security issue with Joe Biden’
      Joe Biden’s son emailed shop owner about hard drive [image] to ‘get it back’ [after FBI given laptop]
      “the owner of the repair shop in Biden’s home state of Delaware says when he did not hear back from the FBI, he made a copy of the hard drive and gave it to Rudy Giuliani”

      “Hunter Biden’s lawyer has come to us both with phone calls and with emails saying, ‘hey, I’ve got to get the hard drive back’.”
      “This is not some Russian intelligence operation; they admit it’s their hard drive,”
      “We have the emails from the Lawyer, if we need to release them, we’ll release them.”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPm0EduPhgY

      3
      Trump ‘won’t get a fair election’ unless social media’s ‘hold on information is broken’
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIaO5gkdH6E

      The Killer ignored by msm rabbit holing: No denials of the facts by Biidens or their lawyers

      4
      US media ‘protecting progressive politicians’
      The media’s determination to ignore the scandal surrounding the Biden’s unsavoury business deals in Ukraine and China demonstrates that many news outlets have turned into a protection racket for progressive politicians
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX0CGGVZ0cg

      The Biden’s reponse: “No comment”

    • @John
      Monday and you and Bidens still silent – why?

      Fox still very quite too

      1
      Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Monday said that Hunter Biden’s laptop “is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign,” amid claims from House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGXYq8pcW28

      2
      Trump 2020 spokeswoman previews foreign policy debate – Hunter Biden
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ni3Cvprdk
      – They should ask Joe if he has any ties to America.

      3
      Tucker Carlson & Glenn Greenwald On The Media’s Latest Propaganda Campaign – The Biden Coverup
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGQDdwbLraU

      4
      Very powerful and revealing like Sky Aus
      Tucker Carlson “NY Times: Hunter Biden – We Must Protect Establishment, Abolish Free Speech”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyl1T3ahFLM
      Dems & MSM Russia, Russia, Russia – again

      5
      Piers Morgan:
      Despite the best, biased efforts of Facebook, Twitter and the overwhelmingly Trump-hating media to kill the story, Biden now has serious questions to answer about Hunter’s dodgy deals and he can’t duck them forever
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8855455/

    • Dear John,
      Embarrassed? Run away to ‘safe space’? In denial?
      Speak up and defend Biden & yourself or admit you were wrong

      1
      Joe Biden is part of his family’s ‘cash-for-influence’ scheme
      Joe & Hunter Biden and their left-wing mates will allow corruption to flourish and ‘illegal immigrants to wander in’ to the US
      President Donald Trump’s rallies show he is absolutely correct when he says he has done more for America in 47 months than what Joe Biden did in 47 years
      https://youtu.be/evj7vOl1-_c?t=50

      2
      If Hunter Biden story was fake the first thing the “Biden camp” would have done is come out and say the emails are fake.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oai9Xi4A7cE

      3
      US “debate” topic changed likely because ‘Biden doesn’t want to talk of foreign policy’
      Biden campaign ‘pretends Hunter Biden story is a Russian misinformation operation’
      “One would think that Joe Biden doesn’t want to talk about foreign policy, because it may well come up about how his son made an awful lot of money out of the Russians, how his son made an awful lot of money out of the Ukrainians, how his son made an awful lot of money out of the Chinese,”

      “And the claims, after his laptop was never picked up, opened, and went through, that his dad was getting a cut of some of that money.”

      “So, they’ve decided to change the rules.

      4
      Biden Running on “I Will Increase Taxes” and has announced 4 days in his cellar ahead of debate
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnISKaknyII

      Mr President: “DRNK has invaded allie South Korea what do we do?”
      Biden: “I’m off to my cellar to rest & think, back in four days”

      5
      “It’s not going to be about foreign policy any more, it will essentially be an echo of the first debate.”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6GlcM2MvSQ

      Debate? No that’s been silenced. It’s a protect Creepy Sleepy Joe pantomime

      Hmm, a YT comment:
      “The real story is it wasn’t actually his son — it was Joe using his son as his frontman to keep his hands clean, but then taking half, 50%. Joe was forcing his son to do that and it screwed him up”

      Your thoughts?

  4. Occurred to me nobody has provided source links, not good, sorry

    NY Post
    https://nypost.com/2020-presidential-election/

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/19/the-media-cover-joe-biden-the-way-a-protection-racket-does/

    Like EU Parl, dissent silenced
    https://nypost.com/2020/10/19/commission-will-mute-mics-during-final-debate-between-trump-biden/

    UK
    Mrs Gove: How long until web giants start censoring Your News?

    The biggest mystery has been the disappearance of a story about Hunter Biden, son of presidential candidate Joe.

    On Wednesday, the New York Post revealed various sordid details about Hunter’s private life, including the suggestion that Biden Snr might have met an official from Burisma – the Ukrainian energy firm his son worked for – while he was Vice-President.

    Given the seriousness of the allegations, you might have expected them to dominate the news. Oddly, they didn’t. Thanks in no small part to the intervention of Twitter and Facebook.

    No sooner had the story gone live than Twitter told users the link to the newspaper site was ‘unsafe’ and blocked them from sharing it in tweets or private messages.

    Facebook downplayed the report on news feeds pending ‘independent verification’ by ‘fact checkers’ – in both cases effectively suppressing the report

    Facebook remains defiant: several days later, it is still deliberately throttling the story, subject to more ‘fact checking’.

    Facebook vice-president Nick Clegg [the LibDem ex leader] and his cronies want Biden to win, believing – as all illiberal liberals do – that they know best, and the end ultimately justifies the means.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8851473/

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